Do you put the shite in you're beautiful 13 ?

There’s a lot of misinformation on fuels on the internet, it’s true that the base fuel will meet the minimum std, what is often overlooked is that whilst the fuel that goes into a shell tanker is the same as another brand loading at the same terminal, the difference is in the additive packs that are automatically introduced into the tank by means of the shell driver initiating loading, the Esso tanker will have an additive pack to an Esso spec etc etc.

The only real issue with normal petrol is that it doesn't keep due to the ethanol, this means it isn't much good in your lawnmower or your classic car (if it can cope with the Ethanol at all) as the fuel will likely go off before it runs out - Premium fuel will have much less Ethanol (or none) so has a longer shelf life.

Diesel is much more complex as the Bio element usually comes from a FAME base stock and will separate if left for a period (without a decent additive to stop it happening), the other issue with Diesel is that the bio content 7% is measured as an average over a period out of the terminal, this means that the % of bio can be variable depending on where you buy it & how much they pay for it.

I would & do use supermarket fuel in the petrol car and my bikes but only generally use Branded fuel in the Van which is Diesel as the Brands sell fuels as their main business so you generally get a reasonable quality, the supermarkets have a fuel sideline and buy on price so you take a chance and diesel engines are expensive to repair.

There’s always someone who has done starship miles on cooking oil and pisses in their adblue tank & if thats your bag then fine but I prefer to spend a few more pence and know what I’m getting.

By the way, I hear Costco fuels are good quality.
 
Fawley refinery used to be Esso, I presume it still is?

I've seen the Esso liveried tankers delivering to my local Sainsburys, though I believe that was a while ago as more recently it has been unbranded tankers driven by agency drivers.

Either way, I add my own additive pack of choice to my fuel at every other tankful. Never had any dramas racking up big miles, save for a needing a new Valeo EGR/Cooler on my VW T5.1 2.0TDI engine due to seizing and corrosion.
 
Fawley refinery used to be Esso, I presume it still is?

I've seen the Esso liveried tankers delivering to my local Sainsburys, though I believe that was a while ago as more recently it has been unbranded tankers driven by agency drivers.

Either way, I add my own additive pack of choice to my fuel at every other tankful. Never had any dramas racking up big miles, save for a needing a new Valeo EGR/Cooler on my VW T5.1 2.0TDI engine due to seizing and corrosion.
Fawley is still Esso and still a refinery, there’s also a terminal in Hamble that’s BP but their fuel gets piped across Southampton water from Fawley.

It’s only the main Brands that have their own fleets but there’s some big names in fuel distribution that have mainly plain vehicles.

If it works for you then that’s great, you’re obviously thinking about your engine as well as what you spend - unfortunately a lot of people don’t.

Adam, it sounds like you get it but for those that don’t the best way to explain is by comparing it to a pizza, the refineries produce a basic pizza that is what everyone would call a pizza but they might find it bland. Some people want to embellish theirs with toppings, in the fuel world these are the additives and they each have a purpose. These include improving lubricity (in diesel), reduced carbon build up or octane/cetane boosters.
 
Any fuel from any UK pump will be regulated and absolutely fine. Yes, E10 too !!

It's only an issue if you're the type to fill your tank and only ride it to you dealer once a year for a service.

Just don't leave any fuel to go stale. Keep it moving. Burn it !!
 
It all comes out of the same refinery so basically it’s all the same.

Ask yourself why does a car manufactured in the 70’s which runs on 4 Star petrol pass the emissions test and can drive into any City with a Clean Air Zone but be exempt and yet a modern car running on expensive Premium Unleaded/Diesel has to pay £7-£12 just for the privilege?
Because it is a classic car ( over 40 year old ) and doesn't need an mot. ( i wish i didn't need one lol ) I know what you mean, it's all about how much the thieving b-arst--is can get off us.
 
Quite interesting.
One thing I did learn, The E5 and E10 is the maximum. Depending on the cost of the Ethanol. So, it may, sometimes not have any Ethanol in it at all. :thumb
That was the case, but now all petrol's at least 5% ethanol in it.

As to the original post, I put any brand of fuel in my vehicles, but I try and put only 5% ethanol fuels in any that are going to be standing for any time, so that means the posh stuff, but any brand is good enough. The only problem I've ever had with fuel has been caused by ethanol. Actually, that's not true. I had a duff tankful of Super in my 1190 from an Esso station. Drained it out and replaced with some old shite I had in the garage for my lawn mower and it ran fine again.

The supermarket fuels have additives too BTW. Fuel companies are pretty secretive about their additives and any benefits of one over the other are impossible to assess by the driver so why bother being picky? Personally, I think it's just marketing. I've taken a fair few engines apart and one generally looks as "clean" inside as another unless there's something wrong.
 
The only proper retail fuel problem I have ever encountered from pump fuel was that of Lead-Replacement Petrol (LRP) around early 1990's IIRC.

Whatever it was they added to replace the Tetraethyl lead and control detonation was also an aggressive solvent which attacked the fuel lines on our ships boats and outboard motor engines, rendering them unuseable - not good on a rescue boat on permanent standby for helicopter operations and men overboard incidents.

That fuel was a menace to many vehicle and boat owners and was subsequently withdrawn from sale.

I recall my Hexhead running like shit on French E10 from one particular supermarket (no option but to use it), but at least it ran.

As for fuel problems with Marine Diesel, ranging from water and contaminants to sulphur-reducing bacteria, I could write a book on that particular subject.
 


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