Dropped my keks in the DSA testing centre today

Why are you all supporting this very childish act, I think its a VERY SENSIBLE RULE.

I am sick and fed up of seeing A&E clogged up by idiots who are using valuable NHS resources because they don't take responsibility for their actions. There are people out there in serious pain and discomfort whose operations get CANCELLED because idiots wearing improper gear (that includes cyclist without helmets) fall off their bikes and seriously injure themselves. That also extends to all the drunks at the weekend.

Please dont tell me its a free country, it is, but please behave in a safe manner as your actions just get the 'lets ban all bikes because they are very dangerous' brigade out in force.
 
That is not the issue, it is a DSA examiner who starts a test off and then suddenly decides that a test candidate does not have heavy enough denim on to allow the candidate to take the test. The examiner has no training in determining if the denim is heavy enough yet is allowed to tell a candidate that their test will not proceed. It's not just the test fee that is lost but also the 2 hours of instructor time he has had to pay for to get taken to the test centre and then back to the training scheme. The costs add up to a fair bit.

Mike's reaction to swopping the trousers over was first class and far from childish. It retrieved the situation for his candidate and allowed him to to take his test. The DSA examiner is the one who should be looking at his actions.
 
The DSA introduced this ruling with no consultation with the training industry or other interested parties. I'm have been told by a source within the industry that it was introduced because of a rider who turned up for his test on his own, not having gone through a training body, and was inappropriately dressed. As a result of this one off the DSA decided to issue their diktat.

I think that most people are broadly supportive of this but the issue is how it has been implemented by the DSA without thinking about issues such as what would constitute suitable denim for one examiner might not be considered suitable by another. In other words, another opportunity for examiners in the Dual Standards Agency to do what some are so good at.............apply different standards.
 
Thank you Mr Knight for your mini-rant which contributed nothing to the thread, you clearly have not read the thread correctly because nowhere have I supported the use of non-approved motorcycle protective clothing. You don't work in Elf and Sarrfty by any chance do you. :blagblah As an instructor I constantly advocate ATGATT to my students but as it is not required by law then they still have freedom of choice. I could have chosen to accept the examiners diktat, shrugged my shoulders and walked out of the test centre - after all it was no skin off my nose (no pun intended) and by the tone of your comments this is probably the choice you would have made. But that is not me, my customers are the lifeblood of the business and I will do all I can to ensure that they get the best that I can give them. Swapping my trousers in the test centre was a small price to pay and a solution to a dilemma that ensured my student was not disappointed, took his test and did not end up out of pocket. It's called thinking out the box, try it sometime as it may broaden your views which appear to be very narrow at the moment.

As a post script to this story - my student had his Mod 2 test today and when he turned up this morning guess what he was wearing???? Yep, the same trousers he wore last week:blast FFS!!! Unbelievably he asked if it was likely to be a problem.....ye gods and little fishes:nenau Fortunately we get our students in 2 hours before test in the event of problems (forgotten documents etc) so I sent him packing to Matalan with orders to come back with a pair of heavy denim jeans. Now it is not as if this bloke is some naive youngster, he is intelligent, in his late 40s and runs his own business....it makes you wonder sometime. :augie :rolleyes:

Anyhoo, he then went on to pass his test with just two rider faults so all's well that ends well.

Oh and as well as a pass certificate he also has a nice new pair of fashionable jeans:D Double result or what :beerjug:
 
And this is a man who derides the Catholic Clergy for what they get up to!

I just though fcuk you mr pedantic examiner and I took my boots off and dropped my textile riding keks in the middle of the waiting room, much to the amusement of the various car/bike instructors and their students waiting for tests. I told my student to do the same

Well that was a first for me, I just hope that I don't have to repeat the stripshow too often.

Yes: What an example to them!

Myke
 
Why are you all supporting this very childish act, I think its a VERY SENSIBLE RULE.

I am sick and fed up of seeing A&E clogged up by idiots who are using valuable NHS resources because they don't take responsibility for their actions. There are people out there in serious pain and discomfort whose operations get CANCELLED because idiots wearing improper gear (that includes cyclist without helmets) fall off their bikes and seriously injure themselves. That also extends to all the drunks at the weekend.

Please dont tell me its a free country, it is, but please behave in a safe manner as your actions just get the 'lets ban all bikes because they are very dangerous' brigade out in force.

When my wife shattered her wrist when she crashed her bike - wearing all the gear - she was left on morphine for 3 days because little old ladies kept falling over and shattering their hips and as their injuries were more serious than hers they were seen first....:ronno
 
Why are you all supporting this very childish act, I think its a VERY SENSIBLE RULE.

I am sick and fed up of seeing A&E clogged up by idiots who are using valuable NHS resources because they don't take responsibility for their actions. There are people out there in serious pain and discomfort whose operations get CANCELLED because idiots wearing improper gear (that includes cyclist without helmets) fall off their bikes and seriously injure themselves. That also extends to all the drunks at the weekend.

Please dont tell me its a free country, it is, but please behave in a safe manner as your actions just get the 'lets ban all bikes because they are very dangerous' brigade out in force.
Yer talking bollox, mate. I've had a few motorcyclists in the back of my ambulance it's true but I've had more feckin horse riders in there than motorcyclists! A+E isn't "clogged" with underdressed bikers, they're few and far between. And the only cyclist I took in had a bad gash on his head. Yes, he WAS wearing a helmet but the branches of the hedge he went over his handle bars into went through the holes in his helmet and into his head...:rolleyes:

Anyway, fair play Lord S, glad he passed...
 
Yes: What an example to them!

Myke[/QUOTE

And this is a man who derides the Catholic clergy for what they get up to!


I'm not sure I understand the point you are making and I assume it is :toungincheek

Surely you are not comparing my actions with the systematic, endemic and prolonged and subsequent cover up sexual, physical and mental abuse of children by the Catholic priesthood:nenau
 
Methinks I scratched a sore!

Yes: What an example to them!

Myke[/QUOTE

And this is a man who derides the Catholic clergy for what they get up to!


I'm not sure I understand the point you are making and I assume it is :toungincheek

Surely you are not comparing my actions with the systematic, endemic and prolonged and subsequent cover up sexual, physical and mental abuse of children by the Catholic priesthood:nenau

My my, what a violent response to a mild tease!

However, since you mention it, and do not live here in Ireland, I thought I would bring you up to speed with recent events.

I reside in Newry, just inside Northern Ireland. A former townsman was Bishop Magee, who was, in recent years, Bishop of Cloyne, Co. Cork.(Republic of Ireland)
He was formerly a personal secretary to 3 Popes.
Look up the Cloyne report on the net.
Magee engaged in a massive coverup over the last 2 years or so.
The Irish Cardinal, Brady, was also up to his metaphorical balls in the same coverup.
It seems obvious that the orders came from Benny.
To say there have been ructions over it is a mastery of understatement.
In the Republic, the Papal Nuncio has been declared "Persona Non Grata", and Benny has been told any future visit to Catholic Ireland is unwelcome.
Today the Irish Parliament completely threw the rattle out of the pram over the latest events.

Just to show there is another side to the story though:

I wasn't there myself, but a friend attended Mass in the local Dominican Church last Sunday.
A Priest, Father Fearon, stood up in the pulpit and spoke fearlessly on the subject. He stated the following, in a loud voice:
Bishop Magee should be defrocked immediately, and jailed.
The cardinal should resign immediately and face jail.
The Pope should resign if he sanctioned their behaviour, and he (the priest) suspected he did.
The same priest had a standing ovation from the congregation.
In our town, he is, by repute, the only one who has put his head above the parapit.

Myke
 
My my, what a violent response to a mild tease!

However, since you mention it, and do not live here in Ireland, I thought I would bring you up to speed with recent events.

I reside in Newry, just inside Northern Ireland. A former townsman was Bishop Magee, who was, in recent years, Bishop of Cloyne, Co. Cork.(Republic of Ireland)
He was formerly a personal secretary to 3 Popes.
Look up the Cloyne report on the net.
Magee engaged in a massive coverup over the last 2 years or so.
The Irish Cardinal, Brady, was also up to his metaphorical balls in the same coverup.
It seems obvious that the orders came from Benny.
To say there have been ructions over it is a mastery of understatement.
In the Republic, the Papal Nuncio has been declared "Persona Non Grata", and Benny has been told any future visit to Catholic Ireland is unwelcome.
Today the Irish Parliament completely threw the rattle out of the pram over the latest events.

Just to show there is another side to the story though:

I wasn't there myself, but a friend attended Mass in the local Dominican Church last Sunday.
A Priest, Father Fearon, stood up in the pulpit and spoke fearlessly on the subject. He stated the following, in a loud voice:
Bishop Magee should be defrocked immediately, and jailed.
The cardinal should resign immediately and face jail.
The Pope should resign if he sanctioned their behaviour, and he (the priest) suspected he did.
The same priest had a standing ovation from the congregation.
In our town, he is, by repute, the only one who has put his head above the parapit.

Myke

It wasn't a violent response at all; I just didn't understand the point you were making and I assumed it was made tongue in cheek - hence my use of the TIC smiley. You have now confirmed that it was tongue in cheek - thank you. :thumb All I did was quote the headline you used in your posting.

If you want to start yet another debate about the criminal behaviour of some of the RC clergy then I suggest that you start another thread. :thumb
 


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