DSA Questions

[Clifton]

Road on my GS with the suspension set to -2 rides and handles so well I've never even tried Dynamic. I guess I should give it a try but it sounds like it won't be much change. I did try dynamic once on my 2014 GSA and it ruined the throttling making it too abrupt.

 

[Martin GSA UK]

Two related but different things: Throttle (and abs, traction control) is set by changing the mode, on the mode button, right side handlebar. It's possible to stay in the same throttle 'mode', but switch just the suspension mode, using the left-hand favourites/hamburger menu.

It is also possible to adjust the throttle (and abs, traction control) setting for each 'pro' right-hand mode. So, it's possible to have dynamic pro with everything in Dynamic, except for the throttle sensitivity, which can be set in Road mode, to avoid what you experienced. I did this when testing the difference between the two suspension settings, so there were no variables other than the suspension.

 

[leadfarmer]

Road on my GS with the suspension set to -2 rides and handles so well I've never even tried Dynamic. I guess I should give it a try but it sounds like it won't be much change. I did try dynamic once on my 2014 GSA and it ruined the throttling making it too abrupt.

One thing that’s very noticeable in dynamic mode is that the linked brakes behave far more normally than they do in road mode where I find there’s far too much intervention from the system

I ride in dynamic with damping at -2 and it’s perfect for me

 

[Clifton]

Good info Martin and leadfarmer, thanks. I'll start trying dynamic because one thing I've been trying to get used to is the braking especially at lower speed. It just feels odd somehow.

 

[gateway77]

I've found the ROAD setting on the GS1300 has a little too bounce or pitches on rolling A / B roads, not as fluid as the 1250.

Changing ROAD to + 1 or 2 helps smooth this out but generally DYNAMIC seems the best setting for the smoothest ride on faster sections. (Fully loaded with luggage I guess that about 400kg including me.)

For motorways in Europe Dynamic is good, in the UK probably back to ROAD setting at plus 1.

One thing I really don't like is the very low speed front braking - sub 5mph. The front end feels very twitchy to me and it feels difficult to come to a smooth standstill at lights etc. (ASA wins here - much better than my clutch / brake control).

I would nearly always come to a stop using rear brake only to avoid that front brake grabbing too sharply.

For this reason in city, town riding I often switch into ENDURO for slow and predictable throttle response - I usually only have Enduro and Dynamic on the right hand Mode button so its a quick shift between the two.

In my case this solves the problem and allows for smooth and predictable low speed manoeuvres. Then it's just a one button click to move back into Dynamic.

 

[Martin GSA UK]

In its standard setting, I find the throttle is so sensitive in Dynamic mode that, on uneven road surfaces, the bounce from the road causes the throttle to surge on and off. Not bad, but noticeable. I get this no matter how much I relax my shoulders and arms.

I noticed it on the 1250RT too, in fact it was worse (perhaps, more weight on the bars from the seating position). Never noticed it on the 1250GS (not Adventure). Why I sold that bike is a mystery! Liking the 1300GSA so far though.

 

[botus]

they do need rubber mounted bars - part of your problem maybe the much stiffer real forks, with real triple clamps, meaning the bars and the front wheel are connected to each other - which was never the case with the flexi-fail, pipe cleaner stanchions they didn't really have on the LC 1200 and 1250 GS's - killed many a biker when the ball joints separated

funny you mention this

the bounce from the road causes the throttle to surge on and off.

its exactly what I found on the fly-by wire mess of my 2016 GSA

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Bike published the photo of the bike they had smashed to bits after a strange tank slapper at 70 mph on a flat bit of tarmac road at the launch - never came of but it was wrecked - magically gone missing when one looks for it
There was also the policeman - I think in Southampton who died in front of his house when he hit a lamp post riding slowly - after the accident the stanchions weren't connected

 

[JoeBiff]

they do need rubber mounted bars - part of your problem maybe the much stiffer real forks, with real triple clamps, meaning the bars and the front wheel are connected to each other - which was never the case with the flexi-fail, pipe cleaner stanchions they didn't really have on the LC 1200 and 1250 GS's - killed many a biker when the ball joints separated

funny you mention this



its exactly what I found on the fly-by wire mess of my 2016 GSA

Kevin Ash Dies in Accident at the 2013 BMW R1200GS Press Launch

[Last edited December 21, 2013] I’d rather be riding. But when I’m not riding I spend a good amount of my free time reading about motorcycles. I read informal accounts from fellow ent…

idratherberiding.com

Bike published the photo of the bike they had smashed to bits after a strange tank slapper at 70 mph on a flat bit of tarmac road at the launch - never came of but it was wrecked - magically gone missing when one looks for it
There was also the policeman - I think in Southampton who died in front of his house when he hit a lamp post riding slowly - after the accident the stanchions weren't connected

Are you on Prozac?

 

[botus]

Are you on Prozac?

no but I did notice an S100RR had a great weighting on its flyby wire throttle, whereas the GSA had a super light joke, and every bump made inadvertent throttle inputs - funnily enough - feedback on this likely helped with the creation of dynamic (on the fly) damping adjustment BMW introduced - way back then I would select comfort at any speeds below 40 mph and dynamic as you went above 40mph

it was always shocking to me that rear damping was not picked up and implemented as a speed related need as far back as 2006 - how the halfwit Japs didn't get their first is quite alarming

 

[leadfarmer]

no but I did notice an S100RR had a great weighting on its flyby wire throttle, whereas the GSA had a super light joke, and every bump made inadvertent throttle inputs - funnily enough - feedback on this likely helped with the creation of dynamic (on the fly) damping adjustment BMW introduced - way back then I would select comfort at any speeds below 40 mph and dynamic as you went above 40mph

it was always shocking to me that rear damping was not picked up and implemented as a speed related need as far back as 2006 - how the halfwit Japs didn't get their first is quite alarming

Are you sniffing glue ?