Extra carrying capacity

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Just got back on Sunday from my first bike tour, 10 great days in the French alps with my wife and friends.

Already planning a 3-4 week tour to Greece in aug & sept.

For this tour the first problem to be solved will be extra carrying capacity we will need for camping.
I have the vario panniers and a tank bag but think I will need to carry sleeping bags and ground mats externally. The vario panniers don’t have any tie down points.

Will I need to strap/bungee the extra luggage to the top or is there a way of attaching tie down points?
Has anybody seens any pictures or modification done.
 
Link to a thread I posted about some additions to Vario Panniers

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106665

On each side of the R1200GS there are three points on each pannier rail through which you can thread webbing. I have found these very useful and at the weekend I used these to hold on a couple of thermarests. Only had one webbing strap with Velcro on each side but no problem securing the thermarests. I have bungee loops fitted on my panniers but the strap was enough to keep mats secure. The straps were from a Kodak disposable camera pack which included an adjustable strap and camera holder. Came accross two more I had so now have 2 straps permantly left on either side. I found the fold away under the seat when not in use. Long enough to easily go round a thermarest and sleeping bag. My pillion found them comfortable for a 500 mile round trip.

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If you keep the Vario panniers one solution is the special expanding Touratech bags that velcro and strap on the top. We used these last year and they were very useful, especially for things like waterproofs that may be needed quickly - but

The overall decision after last year's trip was the I did not like the Vario panniers anyway. The capacity is poor and made worse with the liners, the liners are essential as the side opening design is a pain to use without them unless they are removed from the bike to load/unload, when heavily loaded they flex a lot as they are only located at the top and halfway down one side and when loaded they could flex out of shape making them hard to lock.

I would not want to use the tops as a rack to carry things like tents as they won't take the weight.

Sold them on eBay (only lost about £50) and have fitted Touratech Zega.

- the frames are bomb proof, you could lift the bike from them.
- the two frames are braced together so no flexing
- the box capacity compared with the Varios is not much different on the spec but as they are rectangular the useful space is MUCH more
- the top loading is much better, quick and easy to get thing in and out and all the capacity can be used.
- using the lids as a rack is easy, great for items like tents.
- easy to add `bolt on' extras. I have a bottle rack on one for spare oil after a bottle inside a pannier coming open last year and damaging clothes. The other has a water container.

The other side
- Many think they look ugly and I suppose they do - but they seem to suit the bike well.
- Ditto the frames when the panniers are removed. I paid a bit extra for the grey frames and they look OK but rarely take off the panniers off anyway
- the bare aluminium finish marks easily. I started trying to polish it but now just leave it to go an overall grey. Use of the liner bags (pretty cheap) is essential as the aluminium can rub on contents.
- they look very wide but in practice are less than two inches wider than the bars (offset to the left) which is better than expanded Varios and is not really a problem

To start with I was a bit concerned by the loose fit lids (no hinges) but in use it is no problem and has advantages. I can just leave a lid off to carry things that are too long to get right in and when using the lids as a luggage rack it is easier to take them off to get to contents than have a heavy tent hanging on a hinge with the lid open.

When I bought them I looked at other, similar, kits such as Metal Mule. They can be supplied powder coated and have hinged lids but were much more expensive (and I prefer the loose lids anyway)

Final comment. Touratech has a reputation for slow delivery and I have had some problems in the past but I ordered by phone on a Friday and a courier delivered on the following Monday.
 
I'd get the credit card out and get yourself some aluminium jobs - you know you want to :D

then you can look this; :eek:
 

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Thanks for the info everybody

Thanks Andy, I found the wunderlich pannier bags about an hour after posting (typical).

I think I will do some practice packs starting with skyenet ideas using straps which look simple and cheap which is always good.

I like the idea of adding some tie down point like others have done but am a little concerned about how strong/durable they may be.

The more Adventure style metal cases with top openings and tie downs will be the best solution and the most expensive. I also like the idea of simple mods to the cases as Andy suggest for oil etc. I will look at the cost and options available. I'm sure there are a couple of threads on the subject!

Maybe I will have to force myself in to a couple of weekends away to evaluate the options, any excuse.


Thanks All
 
Tie down points

I bought four of the Wunderlich tie downs and bolted them to my topbox lid (not an expensive BMW topbox I hasten to add!) and they have been fine for bungeeing light stuff like tent, sleeping bags and mats to. Best thing is just not to carry too much in the first place!
 
I'd get the credit card out and get yourself some aluminium jobs - you know you want to :D

then you can look this; :eek:
Oh good! It's not just me that takes too much stuff :D
I think I may have posted this picture too many times now. I was looking at a rather nice flower I was! :o
 

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