F650 GS Restrictor kit......!!(Again)

[Farmer Palmer]

Before I call our local BM dealer, what's the deal with these?

Is it just a throttle restrictor that stops the bike from revving above the 33bhp power output?

How easy is it to fit?

How much does it cost to fit?

Does anyone have an old one lying around that they don't need?

I'm sure I've read about these before but any info or comments would be greatly appreciated!

We just picked our new F650GS at the weekend and Mrs P has only recently passed her test and can only ride her new beast in 33bhp form!!

Thanks FP.

 

[Farmer Palmer]

F650 restrictor....!

Ahhh, just done a 'search'!!

 

[LOLGEOFF]

When you say new, do you mean new? If so when I bought mine in 2003 the 25 kW (34 hp) at 5,500 rpm restricted version was a no cost option. It might be worth running it back to the dealer to see if they can fit one for you. They've probably got a few knocking about from where they've derestricted other bikes.

I think you also need a certificate to say that the bike is restricted in my case it was just a statement hand written on a piece of headed paper.

 

[kopcat]

Only cost me about £35 at Bluebell, Crewe - thought that wasn't too bad. Bike ran smoother afterwards too

 

[Farmer Palmer]

F650 Restrictor!

Hi Lolgeoff, it's new to us but an april 05 bike, When I spoke to BM they said about 70GBP to fit but I'll phone again for an exact price!

 

[Melanie Cheeks]

Congrats to Mrs P on passing her test (I just got mine last week...)

Look forward to comparing notes in the future

 

[kopcat]

Hi Lolgeoff, it's new to us but an april 05 bike, When I spoke to BM they said about 70GBP to fit but I'll phone again for an exact price!

Williams quoted a higher amount too....worth double checking. I think the people on the other end of the line just think of a number and add a £ sign!?! Definitely no more than £35 for mine from Bluebell, Crewe.

 

[POG]

The part itself is only about 4 quid and is a spacer thing that fits over the throttle cable thus restricting it. Pretty easy to fit... but, and this is the BIG but, one needs a certificate to prove that the bike has been restricted and this has to come from a dealer. The dealer then charges you an hours labour to fit this little tube and provide said certificate... Tough I know.

Glad I passed my test back in the good old days

 

[LOLGEOFF]

Whilst mine was restricted no one asked for any prove that the bike had been restricted. I ticked the appropriate box when applying for insurance but was never asked to prove it, and when quirying wether the restriction made any difference to the premium I was told no. I would have thought that the onus would be on someone else to prove that it wasn't restricted rather than you having to prove that it was.

 

[kopcat]

The part itself is only about 4 quid and is a spacer thing that fits over the throttle cable thus restricting it. Pretty easy to fit... but, and this is the BIG but, one needs a certificate to prove that the bike has been restricted and this has to come from a dealer. The dealer then charges you an hours labour to fit this little tube and provide said certificate... Tough I know.

Glad I passed my test back in the good old days

Thought it was an "engine management" thing.......

 

[POG]

Thought it was an "engine management" thing.......

No, do a search on here or go in and ask you local dealer if you dont believe me. It only restricts how far one can open the throttle... Easy to remove if you have the cert and the boys in blue dtop you, but also easy to check up on as well...

 

[kopcat]

No, do a search on here or go in and ask you local dealer if you dont believe me. It only restricts how far one can open the throttle... Easy to remove if you have the cert and the boys in blue dtop you, but also easy to check up on as well...

I don't not believe you, but mine definitely had something "done to the engine management" - got a whole computer printout of it. None of it makes/made any sense to me (am completely a-technical) but that was definitely the case when I had mine done....

 

[Marks adventure]

My sons is a 2002 Dakar and his is restricted by a changing the throttle cable bracket and by moving the throttle cable on the throttle body to a different position.

Left bracket is the 25kw (Restricted) one

Hope this helps

 

[Mick O'Malley]

My son's is a 2002 Dakar and his is restricted by changing the throttle cable bracket and by moving the throttle cable on the throttle body to a different position.

Surely it's either one or the other, depending on the model ? When I restricted (ex) SWMBO's V reg. it didn't have the two position quadrant, so I fitted the bracket (pence from BVM). It took about an hour and was a doddle. A certificate is unnecessary. If you're unfortunate enough to be involved in an accident, you can be sure that the assessor(s) will want to examine the bike in an attempt to worm out of their moral responsibilities .

Regards, Mick

 

[Pingo]

A certificate? No. Your dealer might give you one to make you feel better but there's no legal requirement.
As far as I know there are no procedures in place to test bikes either.
You could make your own "restrictor"... take her up to 90 in fifth and make a mark on the the throttle grip.
Now don't turn the grip further than the mark!
Its restricted officer!

 

[Farmer Palmer]

Jobs Done!

Well, took it up to Motorrad East to be restricted this morning and the jobs done!

The throttle now has a longer travel for less revs and is less snatchy so should be easier and maybe safer for someone 'new' to a big single moving up from a 125 which is what I suppose this is all about!

Riding home I found the performance was fine but I don't 'over rev' the bike anyway and I soon got used to having to twist the throttle a bit more!

We did get a 'restriction' certificate and also a 'job sheet' and had the work written up in the back of the service book.

If the rider was stopped and found to be riding an unrestricted bike on a restricted 33bhp license what would the penalty be? Surely not as severe as just having a CBT certificate and L plates and riding an 50bhp bike.

Or would it be a ban and take your test again?

 

[Pingo]

LC20 "driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence" maybe?
3-6 points.
if you got six you'd have to take your test again.

it's a pretty baggy piece of legislation though, unless it's been changed and they didn't tell me.

it simply states that the bike must be restricted to 33bhp, but it doesn't say where this is measured. manufacturers always give the figure at the crank...because its higher. a dyno would measure it at the back wheel after its been through the gearbox, chain,cush drive and tyre.

So your 50bhp gs is probably only putting about 40bhp onto the road anyway.

There's no stipulation as to how the bike should be restricted or that it has to be a factory part. And no indication of how said bike would be tested either.

Your biggest hurdle, as always, could be the insurance company although in my experience they don't seem too interested, but if it came to paying out then things might take a different turn.

anyway I reckon some gaffa tape over the snorkel would work, I'm not saying it would work well, but it would definitely restrict the engine!

Then write your own certificate!

 

[Marks adventure]

Well, took it up to Motorrad East to be restricted this morning and the jobs done!

The throttle now has a longer travel for less revs and is less snatchy so should be easier and maybe safer for someone 'new' to a big single moving up from a 125 which is what I suppose this is all about!

Riding home I found the performance was fine but I don't 'over rev' the bike anyway and I soon got used to having to twist the throttle a bit more!

We did get a 'restriction' certificate and also a 'job sheet' and had the work written up in the back of the service book.

If the rider was stopped and found to be riding an unrestricted bike on a restricted 33bhp license what would the penalty be? Surely not as severe as just having a CBT certificate and L plates and riding an 50bhp bike.

Or would it be a ban and take your test again?

Just out of interest how much was it to get fitted etc?

 

[Farmer Palmer]

Cost?

It cost 82GBP


That's what my local BMW dealer wanted for the job!

We did get a 'certificate of restriction' as well and since it was a new to us the mechanic gave the bike a thorough safety inspection(the bike was in tip top nick anyway!)

Mrs P is now very happy that her bike is now 'legal' for her and I suppose our insurers will be satisfied if we ever need to make a claim!