Failing caliper lugs or spokes? I need some guidance!

According to VisorDown mag BMW have just issued a recall

"BMW RECALL FOR R NINE T, 1250 GS, RT, R, RS MODELS

BMW has issued a recall for a selection of its most popular models due to an axle problem"
 
iandavid said:
According to VisorDown mag BMW have just issued a recall

"BMW RECALL FOR R NINE T, 1250 GS, RT, R, RS MODELS

BMW has issued a recall for a selection of its most popular models due to an axle problem"
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Wonder when that will happen ?
 
iandavid said:
According to VisorDown mag BMW have just issued a recall

"BMW RECALL FOR R NINE T, 1250 GS, RT, R, RS MODELS

BMW has issued a recall for a selection of its most popular models due to an axle problem"
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Ah ok - this might have something to do with it. Time will reveal all, it normally does.

I got a recall in my R9T a few months ago but I suspect in this case it’s not connected.

Interesting!

Thanks for all the views and opinions guys, very interesting


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spoonz said:
I would agree re the litigation etc but it would would be nice if a failure point was identified. It’s not tied to the 2018 wheel issues directly as some of the failures were pre 18 bikes.
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Maybe it was a mix of things as BMW also changed the spec of the caliper bolts around 2016 to single use encapsulated.
 
Mark Hooton said:
Single use bolts, for gods sake.
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Not sure what you mean Mark?

I can't think of a reason to change them to having thread lock, if there was no suspicion/risk of them loosening during use?

One assumes during the development these sorts of things would have been considered and approved - something appears to have made BMW think again.
 
Mr Bean said:
Not sure what you mean Mark?

I can't think of a reason to change them to having thread lock, if there was no suspicion/risk of them loosening during use?

One assumes during the development these sorts of things would have been considered and approved - something appears to have made BMW think again.
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Ah, please don’t misunderstand (and I apologise if you have) it’s more a statement made by a dinosaur (me) remembering days where torque was all about “yup that feels tight enough” and single use bolts were unheard of!

I’m sure they have their place now (torque and single use bolts), it’s just that hail from other times


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Mark Hooton said:
Ah, please don’t misunderstand (and I apologise if you have) it’s more a statement made by a dinosaur (me) remembering days where torque was all about “yup that feels tight enough” and single use bolts were unheard of!

I’m sure they have their place now (torque and single use bolts), it’s just that hail from other times


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And probably never had a problem saying yup that feels tight enough. I never have anyway.
 
Mark Hooton said:
Ah, please don’t misunderstand (and I apologise if you have) it’s more a statement made by a dinosaur (me) remembering days where torque was all about “yup that feels tight enough” and single use bolts were unheard of!

I’m sure they have their place now (torque and single use bolts), it’s just that hail from other times
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No worries, I just wasn't sure.

I didn't own a torque wrench until I was near 40, always relying on if it felt right... These days (more spare cash) means I have a nice collection, plus my wife is often pillion.

Single use (IMO) is solely because of the threadlock has been removed - I re-use with fresh Loctite.
 
Mr Bean said:
No worries, I just wasn't sure.

I didn't own a torque wrench until I was near 40, always relying on if it felt right... These days (more spare cash) means I have a nice collection, plus my wife is often pillion.

Single use (IMO) is solely because of the threadlock has been removed - I re-use with fresh Loctite.
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Sometimes loctite should not be used, as it makes bolt slippy.
 
I'm so careful with torque wrench calibration I chuck mine away every 10 years and buy new ones.

.... and always zero them after use :D

Same with using breaker bars to save my ratchets :D
 
Winjar said:
Not difficult, if says use threadlocker then yes, if not, then no, on BMW bolts.
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As the caliper bolts are not subjected to high torque and are not of the stretch type why replace them, rather than apply thread locking?

I think it's cheaper for a BMW service department to fit new bolts than clean up the threads and subsequently apply thread lock - nothing to do with a bolt being 'slippy'

Not previously heard that Loctite causes the bolt to be 'slippy' and causing issues, but you learn something new everyday...
 
Mark, as others have said don’t go anywhere near it, leave it to BMW to resolve as you don’t want to be another party involved in an investigation into a serious incident.

If you do decide to go ahead with it I would inform your insurer as you may find yourself uninsured if you get involved without their knowledge and they deem that you increased their risk beyond reasonable by means of your actions.
 
The other thing to consider is this
I wouldn't fit any part to the brake caliper to prevent a problem unless it was approved.
Could have problems with insurance down line....
 
Mr Bean said:
As the caliper bolts are not subjected to high torque and are not of the stretch type why replace them, rather than apply thread locking?

I think it's cheaper for a BMW service department to fit new bolts than clean up the threads and subsequently apply thread lock - nothing to do with a bolt being 'slippy'

Not previously heard that Loctite causes the bolt to be 'slippy' and causing issues, but you learn something new everyday...
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my apologys for bad explaining, I mean makes it slippy to get correct torque, if you use thredlocker when not needed, it can give over torque.
 
Warlord said:
I'm so careful with torque wrench calibration I chuck mine away every 10 years and buy new ones.

.... and always zero them after use :D

Same with using breaker bars to save my ratchets :D
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Do you have the one's you replace them with calibrated? or just accept the calibration certificate supplied with the new equipment?
 
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