Ferry tips - Plymouth to Santander

Me: I think we should have the same open border, as enjoyed by the 450,000,000 souls who reside, just across the water from us, such as I enjoyed but a week ago, as I roared through France, Benenlux and Germany, without due let or hindrance….. or whatever it was our passports used to say.

In case of any doubt, that does not and should not be read as a wish to accommodate, encourage or condone illegal migration. Those apprehended either on entry or later should face the full penalty of the law and imprisonment until such time as they can be returned.

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PS The tea huts were particularly slow on Tuesday morning on my return to our green and pleasant.. The Border Farce woman who addressed me was particularly miserable, despite my cheery greeting. This was in contrast to the chirpy French officer, though his happiness might of course been amplified by my leaving the French nation to get on with their shopping for bread, a national pastime in which they excel.
Oh dear...

How could anyone ever be apprehended on entry if we had open borders?

And if we had open borders, how would anyone ever be here illegally?

If we found someone here we didn't want to be here and returned them to France, what would be to stop them just hopping on the next ferry/train/plane if we're going to have open borders with no border controls?

I'm not sure you've thought this through. Still. :DD
 
Oh dear...

How could anyone ever be apprehended on entry if we had open borders?

And if we had open borders, how would anyone ever be here illegally?

If we found someone here we didn't want to be here and returned them to France, what would be to stop them just hopping on the next ferry/train/plane if we're going to have open borders with no border controls?

I'm not sure you've thought this through. Still. :DD

In other words, we (UK plc) live the way we do, because of a narrow strip of water? Unable to embrace the freedom, allowed to 450,000,000 others. Feck me, even the Swiss (who guard most jealously their rights to reside, let alone the right to wash your curtains on a Sunday) manage to get by…. Half of this forum moans all day and night about control by ‘Them’ and how everyone is spying on them, restricting their rights. In the next breath, they’ll happily divorce the country from our nearest neighbours and, if it were humanly practicable, build a feckin’ wall around the coast, aping the Romans of antiquity, who built a wall from Newcastle to Carlisle to keep savages and the dark away.

PS You’ll remember, of course, that it was the Border Farce, that had not a clue who was in the country, as they’d hidden away thousands and more files away in dusty loft in Leeds. Unfit for purpose, it was described as; the top dog even lied to Parliament. Half of them couldn’t even be bothered to wear a uniform, when sat in their pulpits of power at Heathrow, Representatives of Her Majesty (as was) looking like they were off on the piss.
 
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First relevant post: ....the shambolic UK Border Force passport control.

Your post: True. It’s outsourced to Serco or some such. Last time they pulled both Mrs Berin and I over...

I think it's a reasonable assumption that you were referring to UK Border Force duties that you believed had been outsourced, don't you? And you then have the nerve to say it's my comprehension skills aren't good! Like many many people you seem to be unable to distinguish between the various responsibilities at the border.

I agree the security checks at the ports aren't particularly effective, being (a) random and (b) ignoring the knives that might be in caravans, motorhomes, trucks and so on. Personally I'd like to see the checks being much more intense, but you need to raise your concerns with the port operators and carriers rather than trying to blame UKBF. I do recall some passengers running amok on some planes a few years ago, which brought about the desire to search all air passengers for knives. I don't think it's a huge leap of logic to extend the same checks to ferry passengers.

Whether the Spanish border control ask you to remove your helmet or not is irrelevant. The reality is they may just have been ticking boxes and see people presenting themselves as UK holiday makers as low risk - in my view you can't you can't always do proper recognition checks with a helmet on. I'd have no hesitation in removing my helmet if asked, and have no hesitation asking a biker to remove helmet if I couldn't be sure they were the person in the passport.

If you were asked by UKBF to remove your helmet as you left the country, you were very unlucky. Outbound passport checks by UKBF are a very rare occurrence indeed. You may well have been asked by the carrier to remove your helmet so they can fulfil their obligations to check identities of travellers. Personally I'm glad they did. But again, if you think that's ridiculous you need to take it up with the carrier.
You don’t have a lot to do with your time, do you?
 
What plug sockets are on the boat ? uk type or two pin ?
Thanks
 
What plug sockets are on the boat ? uk type or two pin ?
Thanks
On the Santona from Portsmouth to Santander, there are both euro 2-pin and proper 3-pin sockets. And USB sockets.
 
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Presume there is a duty free shop on board ?
 
Might need some cigs and a bottle to sup on the poop deck.
They have toilets onboard too.Some cabins are even en-suite.Obviously not the one you’ve booked next to the engine room :ROFLMAO:
 
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They have toilets onboard too.Some cabins are even en-suite.Obviously not the one you’ve booked next to the engine room :ROFLMAO:
Taking a bucket it'll be fine.😆
 
I recommended this in another thread, and others have mentioned it, but likely to apply to @Doc who will arrive 6 hours before the ferry departs :p

Santander ferry port is in the city centre. It is possible to check in early and park up between check in and passport control. They have a nice covered area to park the bike in the shade. Walk past the toilet block and use your boarding card to open the pedestrian gate. Cross the road and you are in the city centre. There are a number of Plazas nearby. I found this one which had some shaded seating and bought some food to munch whilst watching the world go by. https://maps.app.goo.gl/2XzwKPHmUGM3hi7eA
 
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Based on my last two crossing on Pont Aven, most recently in June, the lift from deck 2 in the D2 shaft does not work. You really only want to carry an overnight bike up the stairs to deck 5. Leave helmets with the bike. Some cabins are on deck 5 but posher ones are on deck 7 or above. If you are panting by the time you get to deck 5, there are other lifts from here to higher decks.
 
Anyone know if I might be able to buy an adapter for this on the boat just in case I don't find one before please ? UK three pin to euro two pin.
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