First Puncture

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Hi folks,

Well thats ten years this month since i passed the old bike test and today was my first puncture, bloody small tack in the middle of my PR4 rear tyre after only 1K miles. Luckliy i had bought a set of rat tails and the tools so went and gave it a go didnt have any glue as the ba*tard glue had burst in my wee tool box. Anyway was stuck so cleaned out the hole then put in the rat tail its a tough job strong buggers these tyres thankfully. So got the old £10 compressor out and up she blows 42psi and it seems to be holding.

The question i have is can you run with these rat tails or should i get a new tyre?

Its right in the middle of the tyre so how safe is it to run with these rat tails or is it simply a get you home fix??

I have been searching prior to posting this but wanted to ask for my case as i couldnt see anything about longevity.

Thanks as normal for the thoughts...
 
I had the same situation as you and used a rat tail, it got me home and I went to the dealers, they said they could do a proper puncture repair as it was in the middle of the tyre and they did, no more problems until I changed the tyre.
 
Assuming what you call a rat tail is what I call a sticky string, I did well over 1,500 "quite progressive" miles in the heat of Spanish summer a couple of years ago, with one in the PR4 rear of my Multistrada with no problem whatsoever.

Given how it performed, I didn't even bother getting a "proper" plug put in when I got home and by the time the tyre was replaced, the temporary repair had done just short of 2,500 miles.

If it's in the middle of the tyre, I reckon the worst that can happen is it goes down again...
 
Hi folks,

Well thats ten years this month since i passed the old bike test and today was my first puncture, bloody small tack in the middle of my PR4 rear tyre after only 1K miles. Luckliy i had bought a set of rat tails and the tools so went and gave it a go didnt have any glue as the ba*tard glue had burst in my wee tool box. Anyway was stuck so cleaned out the hole then put in the rat tail its a tough job strong buggers these tyres thankfully. So got the old £10 compressor out and up she blows 42psi and it seems to be holding.

The question i have is can you run with these rat tails or should i get a new tyre?

Its right in the middle of the tyre so how safe is it to run with these rat tails or is it simply a get you home fix??

I have been searching prior to posting this but wanted to ask for my case as i couldnt see anything about longevity.

Thanks as normal for the thoughts...

If repair done from inside using "mushroom" type of plug, then there shouldn't be any issues to carry on using the tyre you have. If you think you can remove the tyre yourself and take it to your local tyre shop, it'll be a cheap repair unlike taking whole bike to the dealers.


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Michelin are the only tyre manufacturer who allow repair to Z rated and lower; there is certain criteria over size of hole etc.

Cheaper than a new tyre though.

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Get a "Stop & Go" puncture kit, needs no glue is a mushroom plug so once fitted no need to think about it again.
 
Get a "Stop & Go" puncture kit, needs no glue is a mushroom plug so once fitted no need to think about it again.

Agreed, fitted one to the rear tyre of one of my TL's last August, never lost any air, still in there now, I'm happy to not get it repaired.
Mates girlfriend rode home from Germany last year on her tuono and it was fine even at high M way speeds.
 
Had a nearly new rear Tourance repaired on a trip. Easy enough to do as the wheel comes off like a car wheel. Just make them aware of the tyre pressure sensors before they take the tyre off if you've got them fitted.
Tyre plugged from the inside, the centrifugal force draws it outwards and seals properly. The temporary fix is just that, temporary. It could work its way out and you're back where you started.
Don't be tight Mark, take the wheel off and get yourself along to a reputable repairer.
 
I carry, and have used twice now, one of these - http://www.dynaplug.com/.

Easy peasy, no reaming, one insert is regarded/certified as 'permanent'. For bigger punctures, up to 4 inserts can be used.

Pete

Just got the Dynaplug pro extreme from the US ,not had a call to use it yet thankfully. It is really well made and confidence inspiring.
 
Get a "Stop & Go" puncture kit, needs no glue is a mushroom plug so once fitted no need to think about it again.
I plugged a puncture using my Stop and Go kit a couple of weeks ago. Very easy, except that on the next outing the plug came out leading to a fairly rapid deflation. I was on a back lane so all OK but at motorway speeds on a busy road, umm, it would have been a lot more exciting. Anyway, I guess I hadn't seated the plug properly as the new one is holding up just fine including a fine blast on the B roads of North Yorks and Durham last weekend.

Anyway, the point for this thread is when fitting a Stop and Go plug, or I suppose any mushroom shaped plug from the outside, is to make sure the mushroom head is seated properly agains the inside of the tyre by giving it a good tug and stretch. When fitting the second one I felt it "pop" into place so am more confident in it. Stop and Go instructions do however say to treat the repair as a "get you home" solution only.
 
Used my stop n go kit on a friends bike when he picked up a tack in the centre of his tyre in a car park in Prague. This was last July, from Prague it went onto Poland and back to Hull via Germany/Netherlands. It's still in there now. Good thing is they don't use glue so repairs are easier if you want to go down that route.
 
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I used a stop and go a few years ago . Thought it did the job but failed at 80mph passing a lorry. Heard the air escaping and soon afterwards the contents of my descending colon:eek:
I'd say get a new tyre , but after that I would :D
one of my scariest moments on my old 1150:eek:
 
I used a stop and go a few years ago . Thought it did the job but failed at 80mph passing a lorry. Heard the air escaping and soon afterwards the contents of my descending colon:eek:
I'd say get a new tyre , but after that I would :D
one of my scariest moments on my old 1150:eek:

This is why I use PunctureSafe. It won't seal a big hole but slows down rate of air loss and it will seal normal nail type punctures. What's not to like.
 
This is why I use PunctureSafe. It won't seal a big hole but slows down rate of air loss and it will seal normal nail type punctures. What's not to like.

So Stop & Go used with PunctureSafe/Ultraseal should be a marriage made in heaven ... I can't see any problems?
 
I have both stop n' go and rat tail kits on the bikes. I have used stop n' go plugs about half a dozen times on mine and others tyres and they have always worked provided the hole is round and straight into the tyre. However, if the puncture is more of a cut, non-circular hole or one that's gone in at an angle, I use a rats tail with glue as these work better for less well defined punctures.
 
I had an M6 bolt go through my back tyre PunctureSafe struggled to stop the leak but stop it did.
I took tyre for repair & technician asked why I was bothering. The hole was sealed and almost invisible. He did the job & the tyre gunk didn't bother him in the slightest.
 


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