Fitting mousses - Only for fun!

[Greg Masters]

I bought one of these 'OnlyforFun' tyre changing rigs:

I managed to fit an 18" mousse on the back of the 'Berg last night. What a barrel of laughs!!

I'll leave the front for a few days whilst I recover ....



Greg

 

[earthmover]

Hi Greg,
It does get easier, honest! Getting the front in will seem like a doddle compared to the rear. Which tyre/mousse combination are you using, and how many rim locks? I know Michelin say you don't need them, but I just can't get my head round that!
Mark

 

[Greg Masters]

Hi Greg,
It does get easier, honest! Getting the front in will seem like a doddle compared to the rear. Which tyre/mousse combination are you using, and how many rim locks? I know Michelin say you don't need them, but I just can't get my head round that!
Mark

On the rear I fitted a 120 section AC10 with an Michelin M14. I used the one standard rim-lock.

The front may not be so easy. I'm using a Michelin Desert with the firmer Michelin M16 mousse (most people use the M15 - but as I'll be on rocky terrain, the rarer M16 is a better option). I'll also use the standard rim-lock.

Greg

 

[Blue Sweeper]

Greg, did you use mousse grease when trying to get the mousse in? You need to put loads on as it's a real pain without and I'd say almost impossible. I remember putting mousse in all the wheels for Pavey and Plumb at the 2003 Dakar Rallye with just tyre leavers and no fancy gadget like that.

 

[BurtieBoy]

On the rear I fitted a 120 section AC10 with an Michelin M14. I used the one standard rim-lock.

The front may not be so easy. I'm using a Michelin Desert with the firmer Michelin M16 mousse (most people use the M15 - but as I'll be on rocky terrain, the rarer M16 is a better option). I'll also use the standard rim-lock.

Greg

Michelin mousses are harder to fit but in my opinion the best mousse. Definitely fit rim locks - I have had a wheel pop off the bead and off the rim lock in a rally before - the fire roads on corners but a lot of pressure on the rear mousse when powering out. At least with a mousse you can get it all back together at the side of the track.

Use loads of lube and it does get easier.

 

[Deleted account D]

Greg you should have given me a shout i would have come round and helped you.

The key is to put the mooooose in the tyre first.


I'm trying these this time

http://www.trelleborgtyres.co.uk/product_details_57.htm

 

[Womble]

Make sure that you plug the valve hole to stop the lube escaping or the mousses won't last as long.


...I hope you already knew that, because it's a lot easier to bung in something like a tubeless valve BEFORE you fit the mousse

 

[muzvmc]

It's getting the antlers in that I always struggled with.

 

[Greg Masters]

Greg, did you use mousse grease when trying to get the mousse in? You need to put loads on as it's a real pain without and I'd say almost impossible.

A full tube was duly smeared all inside the tyre and some on the mousse too.

Greg you should have given me a shout i would have come round and helped you.

The key is to put the mooooose in the tyre first.

Mousse went in the tyre first - that was a game in itself!!

 

[Greg Masters]

Make sure that you plug the valve hole to stop the lube escaping or the mousses won't last as long.


...I hope you already knew that, because it's a lot easier to bung in something like a tubeless valve BEFORE you fit the mousse

Did that.



Greg

 

[Greg Masters]

It's getting the antlers in that I always struggled with.

That exactly what it was like!



Greg

 

[muzvmc]

It's still better to struggle in the garage with the radio on and a coffee rather than in the middle of a wet welsh forest!!!
We put a tubeless valve in, remove the core then use the airline to pop the tyre onto the rim.
I can imagine that fitting an AC 10 would harder than a std enduro tyre as the walls are that much stiffer. Apparently it's the rally tyre carcass with a harder wearing tread.

 

[Greg Masters]

During the year I've changed the tyres a few times and it's easy with used mousses. But I've just fitted new mousses with new tyres.

The front is a piece of cake - took the old one off and fitted the new once (twice - put the tyre on the wrong way round first time! ). Did all that in 30 minutes.

The rear was still a bastid. I think that it's because I'm fitting a M14 mousse - really designed for a 140 tyre - into a 120-section AC10. According to the Michelin guff they are compatible but what a fecking larf!!



Greg

 

[darkhorse]

Just took the rear mousse off mine. Think I need to take a break before attempting to fit the new one.. It's certainly going to take a lot longer than those 60 second YouTube clips showing you how it's done

 

[Berin]

Just fitted a new mousse and front Comp IV to Mrs Berin's KTM250 EXCF, brought the tyre and wheel in and left it by the rayburn last night, and it took about 20 min using the mousse board that Greg uses.

 

[daveg]

Just fitted a new mousse and front Comp IV to Mrs Berin's KTM250 EXCF, brought the tyre and wheel in and left it by the rayburn last night, and it took about 20 min using the mousse board that Greg uses.

After the trauma of fitting new Michelin mousses and AC10s front and back recently I'll be round to see you if/when I need to do it again. Glad you're nice and local