Fog lamps

[(RIP) Jamie]

No! Don't nod off!

I was just thinking, I'm due for an MOT soon.

So what are the implications for me lamp bracket and lamps, fired by the RobSwitch?

Do I need to do anything?

Cheers

Jamie

 

[littleredrooster]

Not a testable part of the MOT, I don't think, other than 'if fitted must be working'.

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Fanum]

LRR is right.........this from an MOT site....

LIGHTS and Electrical

Basically all lights fitted must work . However if ALL are missing then you can still pass an MOT.

For machines manufactured after 1934 you need 1 brake light working

For machines manufactured after 1973 you need a HORN that makes a continuous noise

For machines manufactured after 1985 you must have indicators fitted if you have lights fitted

For machines manufactured after 1985 and over 50cc are required to have 2 separate brake light systems (i.e. 1 on each brake )


It doesn't say it there, but i thought any aux lights had to be symetrically mounted if off the centre line of the bike......but then again, those silly firefox lifghts on gsxrexupninja thingies are'nt symetrical so I may just be talking out of me bum again.

How silly is it that you can pass an MOT with NO lights at all!!

 

[jimbo]

For machines manufactured after 1985 and over 50cc are required to have 2 separate brake light systems (i.e. 1 on each brake )

Doesn't imply 2 bulbs? I haven't got more than one

 

[franco]

Nope

Means two switches. A front brake switch, so the light comes on when you pull the front lever, and same for the back....

 

[iaintook]

A no light MOT is called a daylight MOT I believe.. Its how you can get a racing sidecar outfit on the road

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

A no light MOT is called a daylight MOT I believe.. Its how you can get a racing sidecar outfit on the road

However if you have a 'daytime' MOT, then no lights must be attached or wires to lights and you must have a continuous horn and red rear reflector.
If you have then a 'daytime' MOT and you're pulled in bad weather.......when you should be using lights or after dark..........then it would be difficult to argue that your bike has miraculously been fitted with working lights...........

Not an option on a GS.............I wouldn't think.

 

[BTBR]

Just a thought, but is the height of the fog lights an issue?

I ask because when they are fitted up under the beak they are higher than the measurments stated in the Construction & Use regulations.

It also states that additional fog lights (not driving or spots) must have a visual aid to notify the driver that they are on and should not be used as day time running lights unless the conditions support there use, ie fog, falling snow etc.

For sure plently of car drivers have been prosecuted for driving around with just the side lights and fog lights on during the day, purely coz it looks cool.

Whilst I am sure that the MOT tester "might" not say anything if "plod" was sharp eyed * had his arse in his hand it could be?

My two pence worth!

That said I have fog lights mounted under the beak and I ride with them on during the day!

BTBR

 

[The Mechanic]

Letter of the law

Just a thought, but is the height of the fog lights an issue?

I ask because when they are fitted up under the beak they are higher than the measurments stated in the Construction & Use regulations.

It also states that additional fog lights (not driving or spots) must have a visual aid to notify the driver that they are on and should not be used as day time running lights unless the conditions support there use, ie fog, falling snow etc.

For sure plently of car drivers have been prosecuted for driving around with just the side lights and fog lights on during the day, purely coz it looks cool.

Whilst I am sure that the MOT tester "might" not say anything if "plod" was sharp eyed * had his arse in his hand it could be?

My two pence worth!

That said I have fog lights mounted under the beak and I ride with them on during the day!

BTBR

Exactly why my Hella ff50s are mounter on the engine bars and operated by the high beam switch.

Simple answer is to remove any extra lamps for the mot then fit them back on after you get your pass ticket. Easy for some eh!

 

[The Mechanic]

Forgot

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[littleredrooster]

Further to other questions - <ramble mode on> - I think symmetrical mounting only applies to cars. Don't recall seeing anything in the C & U regs about bikes.

So-called 'foglights' are a bit of a can of worms if you read the regs. Wording is (summat like) 'mounted beneath the bumper' and 'operable independently of the headlights' that puts them into a seperate classification. Otherwise, the main regulation is that they should extinguish with the main beam unless set not to dazzle oncoming traffic; i.e. (yawn) just because they have a flat-topped beam does not necessarily make them 'foglights' in the eyes of the regs, merely 'additional lights'. Beam pattern and height-setting is not tested in the MOT, however, so breathe a sigh of relief.

<Ramble mode off>

As i've just sent meself to sleep with this diatribe, I'm going for a lie-down.

 

[ToNe]

Aren't the B*W fog lights fitted up around the beak ?

 

[bmwrich58]

here's mine:


I'm using an auxiliary "Moto lite" switch hooked up to a relay.
I even thought of switching them, to be operational from the "high beam switch" on the left control.