FPC Carry Spare Vs Replace anyway

so in brief - if your GS has ever let you down you feel like you can never trust it again

if it hasnt you think its the best thing ever

both views understandable in my view
 
6 1200s and about 150'000 miles = 6 FDs and 1 fire and loads bits that can't deal with british winters. Plus loads of other stuff.

Seems like evidence of an average life of 25k per FD. Not very good

Has your GS actually broken down? Have you had a FD or FPC replaced on your own bike?

Is that the point? People have survived parachute jumps where the chute don't open, that does that mean jumping out of a plane without a parachute is a good idea?

The fact it has not broken down yet does not mean it is going to be reliable, it looks like I should expect my first FD failure by 25k, perhaps the FPC is likely to fail even sooner.

I would rather carry a spare FPC than get dragged back from my holiday by the RAC (or BMW assist if my f***** warranty actually turns up within 11 months of buying the bike)

give up bob,the guy just does not want to listen

Listen to what, the 500 odd people who claim to have had an FPC fail are all telling porkies?

My original query was fit Vs carry, I have conceeded perhaps failures are not a daily occurence and maybe just keeping one to hand is enough.

Nobody is going to convince me the bloody FPC's are reliable, because clearly they are not, again if they were why did BMW re-design and recall them? and why are failures still being reported here on almost a weekly basis.

I would guess FPC failures probably amount to well over 50% of faults - from one of thousands of parts on the bike, so these are by far the most common failure - just seems sensible to carry one.

My other point is that FD's are also pretty fragile with an average life probably not all that much better than a chain, but at 10 times the cost it makes for expensive running costs. OK maybe they average 30k or even 40k - certainly not the 100k or so they ought to last.
 
For now I will carry the FPC (can always sell it if the original survives)

Ah, you decided to take the sensible approach in the end. So much easier to have sixty odd quids worth of new FPC rattling around in an oversized topbox, than fiddling around with a second hand plug and in-line fuses to the battery, trust me. Don't forget your tools to fit it, or you will be twiddling your thumbs on the roadside or ripping perfectly good leads to cannibalise everything. Trust me on that, too.

Yours won't fail.
 
Agreed Johnny. He has read all this stuff on the internet and is now shit scared to actually ride the bike incase his FD falls off/EWS fails/FPC fails/runs out of petrol/starts raining/rider has a brainstorm etc etc. I hope he doesn't start doing any research on food otherwise he might find himself deciding not to eat!

He's had a Kawasaki and badgered the tits off Kawasaki UK Ltd, so he can't go back and buy one of them

Rasher is the king of worry..........................yet he has nothing go wrong with the fecking thing..............................either ride it, sell it or shut the feck up:mad:
 
There will be no changing Rashers mind. Even though he readily admits to loving his bike, his glass half full disposition has persuaded him that he will end his days on the Autoroute when his FPC and FD disintergrate and he crashes and burns.

Bob is quite right that most of the doom and gloom comes from internet heresay. There is no doubt that there have been some issues with the FPC but it's cured now and although some FD's have been troublesome, it's by no means the common problem Rasher seems to think.

My 1200ADV has gone 66k with only one issue which was fixed under warranty no problem and has been perfect.

I took a group of 12 GS's across the US last year and we covered approx 75,000 miles between us in 4 weeks in everything from heavy rain to 50 degree heat and 12500ft altitude. They ranged from 04's to 2010's. Of the 10 1200's we had 2 batteries go, one faulty servo (fixed with a piece of wood:augie) and 2 outer FD seals which leaked a bit because they were overfull. Oh, Garfield had to have a new rear suspension unit but had 34k on the clock and his bike does take a hammering.

According to Rashers thinking, we should have had multiple failure of everything from rear bulbs to FD's but guess what, we didn't. Kind of blows Rashers presumptions out of the water. The bikes were flawless and the only show stopper was an 1150 with rear drive bearing failure:augie

Next year, I will be doing 2 trips of 8000 miles each with 12 GS's on each trip and I can predict we won't have too many issues. I would rather be doing these trips on a GS than any other bike that's for sure because they all suffer from some kind of problem.

Rasher, FFS chill out, prep your bike properly and enjoy your trip around Europe in the summer.
 
i have ridden with dozens of 1200s,over 1000s of miles,not once ever have i seen a breakdown,your fixation with 500 failures of fpc is flawed in so much it takes no accont of how many have not broken down.myself and 3 others are going to stelvio and beyond next week,we have discussed lots of things,have we talked about fpc and ews and fd?,have we bollox.as others have said to you on other threads sell your bm and buy something else.and just stop the constant repetitive :blagblah:blagblah:blagblah.
 
The fact it has not broken down yet does not mean it is going to be reliable, it looks like I should expect my first FD failure by 25k, perhaps the FPC is likely to fail even sooner.

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What the feck are you worried about then!!! If you had had problems I could understand you having concerns but the bike has been reliable and has not let you down. Just get on it and ride the fecking thing!!!!
 
Rasher, FFS chill out, prep your bike properly and enjoy your trip around Europe in the summer.

Sounds like a plan, I am not so sure how you "prep" a GS, my other Euro tours have just involved making sure the tyres have some tread, lubing the chain abd fuelling up before setting off.

Be interested to see how everyones trips go, I just wish I had the faith others do, booked a service for a few weeks before and will pick up FPC at the same time.

I would also be a lot happier if the bloody warranty book would turn up, all I have is a verbal from the dealer and I am not so sure that will cut the mustard when talking to a French BMW dealer.
 
If that were the FPC Rasher old lad the thing would have stopped dead and not restarted.......unless you know different of course:augie

Oh, they die instantly do they.

Maybe I will fit a new one before mine stops dead (pun intended) mid-overtake :thumb2
 
Oh, they die instantly do they.

Maybe I will fit a new one before mine stops dead (pun intended) mid-overtake :thumb2

Oh I dunno . . . don't be too hasty! :rolleyes:
 


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