French radar warning signs to be removed

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http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/artic...les-mesures-du-gouvernement_1520389_3224.html

Signs indicating the presence of speed cameras will be removed and
installation of radar maps will not be made ​​public. The radar detectors are banned and 1 000 new radars will be deployed by the end of 2012.
Speed ​​control. A speeding over 50 km / h over the speed limit will become a misdemeanor first offense.

Two wheels: Motorcycle users who do not drive in the last five years must now undergo training. License plates for motorcycles and scooters will be larger to make controls more effective radar. Drivers of motor tricycles and shall wear retro-reflective equipment.

Alcohol. A blood alcohol level over 0.8 g / t would be punished by a withdrawal of eight points on the driver's license, against the current six. Using a alcolock be made ​​compulsory without delay for all transportation of people.

Tel . Phone while driving, the camera in hand, shall be punished by withdrawal of three points instead of two.

Emergency stopping lane . Traffic on one lane of emergency - forbidden - will now be sanctioned by withdrawal of three points and a fine of 135 euros.
 
Never paid too much attention to them before, not so sure I will start now either, especially as the GS speedo is about 6 mph out at motorway speeds allowing for indicated 88mph cruising to be within the law, and by 89mph I cannot afford the fuel consumption penalty :mad:
 
orbit said:
The radar detectors are banned
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Detectors are already banned in France and have been for decades.

I think this refers to GPS-based alerting systems that are already banned in Switzerland, Germany etc. Presumably Garmin/TomTom will have to remove the data from their map updates.
 
orbit said:
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/artic...les-mesures-du-gouvernement_1520389_3224.html

Signs indicating the presence of speed cameras will be removed and
installation of radar maps will not be made ​​public. The radar detectors are banned and 1 000 new radars will be deployed by the end of 2012.
Speed ​​control. A speeding over 50 km / h over the speed limit will become a misdemeanor first offense.

Two wheels: Motorcycle users who do not drive in the last five years must now undergo training. License plates for motorcycles and scooters will be larger to make controls more effective radar. Drivers of motor tricycles and shall wear retro-reflective equipment.

Alcohol. A blood alcohol level over 0.8 g / t would be punished by a withdrawal of eight points on the driver's license, against the current six. Using a alcolock be made ​​compulsory without delay for all transportation of people.

Tel . Phone while driving, the camera in hand, shall be punished by withdrawal of three points instead of two.

Emergency stopping lane . Traffic on one lane of emergency - forbidden - will now be sanctioned by withdrawal of three points and a fine of 135 euros.
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Cheers for the info. Martin :thumb
 
stolzy said:
Detectors are already banned in France and have been for decades.

I think this refers to GPS-based alerting systems that are already banned in Switzerland, Germany etc. Presumably Garmin/TomTom will have to remove the data from their map updates.
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They'll still be supplied by a third party though, I expect, for a fee. It can't be illegal to amass and share that data, only to use it, so the offence would be the rider/drivers.
 
some over the top Draconian measure being applied there:blast

and surely drink driving should involve a ban and not points , or is drink driving seen as less of a crime than speeding:confused:
 
somehow i just cant see the French riders accepting obligatory hi viz.
this could get interesting.:popcorn

Thanks for the info. :thumb2
 
I received word today of the impending french ban in a newsletter from the PocketGPSworld website
In a surprise move, news is beginning to filter through of a proposal to ban on the sale and use of speed camera warning systems in France.

A number of french news sites have posted the news this evening citing the move as an effort to curb the rise in the number of road accidents on Frances roads in recent years.

Detailed information is not yet available but some have mentioned the possibility of a €1,500 fine if caught flouting the ban once it comes into effect..

This is certain to cause a stir amongst a number of companies, Coyote and Inforad are both French companies that specialise in the manufacture and sale of speed camera warning systems.
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Re GPS and speed camera warnings, the ban as I understand it is on DETECTORS. GPS units in the main are not detectors but as the French literature describe as Advertisers. i.e. of fixed sites. So normal GPS units - Garmin and Tom Tom are still ok to use. If anyone knows different, I would like to hear.
 
Hi Viz shorts..... It's the future!

EU harmonisation will see us being forced to adopt 'Spanish riding'; Steptoe is ahead of legislation it seems. In exchange, the good folk of Cordoba will be forced to ride around in Lancashire rain all day, every day.
 
Noise bands will also be fitted to hard shoulders to stop drivers from falling asleep.
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Brass bands will be stationed inside hotel rooms to stop riders falling asleep.

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mcinlb said:
Re GPS and speed camera warnings, the ban as I understand it is on DETECTORS. GPS units in the main are not detectors but as the French literature describe as Advertisers. i.e. of fixed sites. So normal GPS units - Garmin and Tom Tom are still ok to use. If anyone knows different, I would like to hear.
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I think it refers to the banning of the GPS units - the radar emission detectors are already illegal, so why would they be mentioned in new legislation?

GPS radar position indicators like InfoRad or a Garmin units are already illegal in several European countries, France just falling into line with Euro norms, I think
 
orbit said:
Two wheels: Motorcycle users who do not drive in the last five years must now undergo training
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Interesting, I wonder how they're going to check this?

Or do they mean whether you've registered a bike in the previous 5 years.

or ANPR on every road!!
 
Goose said:
Nothing to stop us from putting new POI flags on the maps at the "reevant" spots that give the info as advisory...? :augie
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Not at the moment (at least not in France), but it seems that will become illegal next year.
 
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