French radar warning signs to be removed

stolzy said:
Not at the moment (at least not in France), but it seems that will become illegal next year.
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What I mean... is to edit the POI file for the camera's.. and let a message pop up instead that announces "Hot Water" or "Naughty Naughty" or something similar. If the warning message has buggerall to do with a speedtrap/camera... can they still nab you :augie
 
400+ odd miles around rural France on Saturday.

No speed cameras, one hand held radar police check in a village in the late afternoon (unannounced) but as it's a 50kph posted limit (rather similar to the UK) it's not difficult to avoid. Yup, I have been done on the open road through an (unanounced) radar gun..... but that's just the luck of the very big draw.

Re. Goose's question. The chances of being stopped are incredibly small. If you are stopped it will have been for a reason. That reason may well be speeding, suspicion of drink driving or some other henious motoring offence or simply because they can. Of course your French may be up to explaining to M Le Plod that you record 'Hot water' and / or 'Naughty naughty' for some essoteric reason, or it may not be. If the latter, hire yourself an advocate to plead your case.

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If this latest peice of non-news discourages Brits on their bikes visiting France.... Hooorah! More room for the rest of us. :D
 
Goose said:
What I mean... is to edit the POI file for the camera's.. and let a message pop up instead that announces "Hot Water" or "Naughty Naughty" or something similar. If the warning message has buggerall to do with a speedtrap/camera... can they still nab you :augie
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Many have regretted trying to take Gendarme's for rural dimwits. If it becomes illegal (and that's not certain) they will make themselves familiar with the working of the GPS units and will know the loction of the camras.

Don't forget, a gendarme is not a policeman (that logo is not a olive branch, its a grenade:D). For all practical purposes his word has the force of law. You can attempt to prove he was lying, but i wouldn't fancy your chances.
 
I believe that what they are indicating is that they will no longer publish the speed camera location in the local press which they do a week in advance (Le Montange) plus they will not update the information on the road agencies websites. As far as I am aware and having spoken to French Motor Traders the mapping provided with SatNaves will also not be updated by the French authorities. They have already started to remove some of the signs showning the locations of fixed Speed Cameras. - HOWEVER if you aviod the A and N routes you shouldn't see many fixed cameras and the french early warning system for mobile units is well established by flashin of headlights.

Hi Vis is expected to come in as early as September 2011 but the French federation for Motorcyclists have yet to demonstrate their feelings (if they have any) no dates have been advised for a mobilisation of motards...

The new rules for Drink driving, phones are welcome.
 
Fixed sites are not currently the problem for UK registered bikes. There is still no information sharing system in place, France/UK, despite all the 'proposals' to do so.

The mobile ones are generally set up on the entrance to and exit from towns and villages, simply take care and respect the speed limits. No big deal in any of the proposals and no definition of what constitutes Hi-Viz. Most modern bike jackets have some form of reflective strip or piping.
 
You should see if any of the BCFr are attending... I will be out with 14 guests from the UK ;) will be at Oradour sur Glane Sunday having a Chip Buttie at the PMU :D
 
There's a couple of contradictions from what was provided in the link at the beginning of this thread.

From the link posted originally: Fluorescent jackets, yellow or orange must be worn at all times. but from the article here http://www.connexionfrance.com/Spee...ne-motorcycle-jackets-12724-view-article.html it says: "Users of two-wheeler of more than 125cc face having to wear jackets with reflective bands or high-visibility jackets to make them easier to see if they fall off their machines" which I am taking to mean if involved in an accident.

Also in the original link it says: "The license plates will be enlarged, making it easier to photograph. No dimensions have been communicated, yet" whilst in the article previously referred to it says: "Motorcycle numberplates will be made larger so they can be traced more easily for speed offences. New plates will be 275x200 mm and will be fitted to new or newly-registered vehicles".

Interestingly, as regards this last part, we in Germany have recently passed a law that allows newly registered bikes to be fitted with smaller number plates and that owners of the more standard sized plate can swap for a smaller version at a reasonable cost ie cost of new plate.

Oh well, looks like I'll be carrying one less T-shirt this summer by having to replace it with a spare and larger number plate when hopping across the border into France. I just hope the rest of the EU countries don't jump on the bandwagon and decide to come up with other sizes otherwise I'll be down to carrying only underpants and socks in my side cases LOL. :nenau
 
lot of scaemongering.. until the details are actually finalised its all tosh esp as radar detectors have always been banned.. if the reporting website can not clarify that simple point what else have they got wrong?
 
I for one hope that our french motorcycling cousins come out in force and put a stop to this ridiculous 'hi-viz' jacket situation. It will be a cold day in hell when I ride wearing one. In fact I would think a trip to the court of human rights would be due if this law comes into force here!!

I too doubt there will be too many BCFR members out demonstrating! :augie

I also hope that the whole country comes out and blockades everything regarding the removal of the fixed camera warning signs and to the addition of 1000 extra cameras! Having said that it is such a big Country you will not exactly see one every 2 miles like you do in England :D

Regarding mobile phone use and drink driving they can do what they like for these offences as both are lethal and deserve severe penalties.

I can't see the french motorcyclists rolling over on these issues without a good fight at least. Will have a look on the FFMC site and see if there are demos near us. I know there is a national 'go-slow- day I think on the 18th June too :D
 
AlanI said:
There's a couple of contradictions from what was provided in the link at the beginning of this thread.

From the link posted originally: Fluorescent jackets, yellow or orange must be worn at all times. but from the article here http://www.connexionfrance.com/Spee...ne-motorcycle-jackets-12724-view-article.html it says: "Users of two-wheeler of more than 125cc face having to wear jackets with reflective bands or high-visibility jackets to make them easier to see if they fall off their machines" which I am taking to mean if involved in an accident.

Also in the original link it says: "The license plates will be enlarged, making it easier to photograph. No dimensions have been communicated, yet" whilst in the article previously referred to it says: "Motorcycle numberplates will be made larger so they can be traced more easily for speed offences. New plates will be 275x200 mm and will be fitted to new or newly-registered vehicles".

Interestingly, as regards this last part, we in Germany have recently passed a law that allows newly registered bikes to be fitted with smaller number plates and that owners of the more standard sized plate can swap for a smaller version at a reasonable cost ie cost of new plate.

Oh well, looks like I'll be carrying one less T-shirt this summer by having to replace it with a spare and larger number plate when hopping across the border into France. I just hope the rest of the EU countries don't jump on the bandwagon and decide to come up with other sizes otherwise I'll be down to carrying only underpants and socks in my side cases LOL. :nenau
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A numberplate issued and legal in one EU country cannot be deemed illegal in another, so no need to change numberplates at the border :thumb2
 
swissrob said:
lot of scaemongering.. until the details are actually finalised its all tosh esp as radar detectors have always been banned.. if the reporting website can not clarify that simple point what else have they got wrong?
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+1 lots of proposals with no detail to back it up. Even if the French decided to review these proposals, discuss them in some detail, move them through the bureaucracy and make it all law it would be 2/3 years off.
 
ianboydsnr said:
A numberplate issued and legal in one EU country cannot be deemed illegal in another, so no need to change numberplates at the border :thumb2
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+1 Same as your driving license. Urban myths are better than facts:D
 
thornley said:
+1 lots of proposals with no detail to back it up. Even if the French decided to review these proposals, discuss them in some detail, move them through the bureaucracy and make it all law it would be 2/3 years off.
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So how comes the radar warning signs have have already been removed around here within the last week ?
 
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