front brake (ABS) 'cheeps'

colesyboy

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Hi all,

Not sure why, but its a bit worrying...every now and then under the front brake under duress will make a 'cheep' sound briefly and the brake will release slightly. Not sure why, any ideas?

1150 ABS 2000 model - 34k miles.

Fanks!
 
I suspect that that's the ABS doing exactly what it's supposed to be doing. I get the same thing (my bike's more or less the same age), mostly when my tyres are past their best, and if I brake very hard on a warm day. I think the 'cheep' is the sound of the tyre just locking up, before the ABS kicks in and releases it.
 
Well it is odd as Im not applying much pressure at all - it can happen just when Im pulling up to lights (not fast) or stepping off a kerb and touching the brakes...

It aint right I tell yas. Id expect noises bombing it down the road and taking a fistfull of brakes, but thats not what I am doing.

It all started back when I took the bike to Braken for a service. I really couldnt be bothered to take it all the way back there to get it sorted because I am not using them anymore. Every time I have taken it there, something had gone wrong with the bike. I am sure they are very good - but I have had back luck with them.

Any ideas!
 
If you're using the rear, then the front is likely to release, particularly for that last squeeze at the lights, or when you have poor traction due to road surface (corrugations, or washboard are a classic example).

Because the wheels (particularly the rear) can't follow the surface of the road, and bounce up very briefly off the road, if you have the rear brake on, the rear locks, and as a consequence, the ABS kicks in. Sadly, the ABS kicks in at BOTH ends, instead of just the end which is locking up (i.e. if the rear wheel locks up, the front brake will release, and vice versa). BMW, in their infinite wisdom, did this to prevent riders from going over the top doing accidental stoppies under very hard braking.

The best solution to this is to fit better suspension components. Yours are probably at the end of their service life (that's techno-speak for "shagged") after 5 years and 34k miles. I have a bike of similar age and mileage, and my shocks are in a similar state. Better suspension components keep the wheels on the road better, and so get around this problem of the rear wheel losing contact, locking up, and the ABS kicking in. Alternatively, just use the front brake in situations like this, and that'll stop the rear from locking up as well.
 
I had a similar thing happen to me earlier in the year I stripped down & fully cleaned both front callipers dried them & then doused them with loads of WD 40 carefully pressing the brake lever to get the pistons out, then pushing them back in & repeating the process until they are moving in & out freely. Make sure you wipe off all the WD40 & re-apply plenty of copperslip. hey presto new brakes !!!! & no sticking/binding Good Luck !:)
 
You really shouldn't put either WD40 or copper grease on your brake pistons. Both will attack the seals in the caliper.

For cleaning, use either brake fluid, or aerosol brake cleaner. And if you must lube the pistons after cleaning (they should move freely without any lube) use proper brake grease (the red stuff) which doesn't attack rubber. But the pistons in a well maintained caliper should move freely without grease. If they don't it's likely that the grooves in which the seals sit are clogged with dirt - no amount of lube will help in this case, what is required is a complete strip down and clean of the caliper.
 
cheers gents

I'll be stripping down the brakes this weekend - thanks for all the help - and jibes. Most amusing and helpfull.

Nice one fellas!

Brian
 


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