Gambia on an airhead?

Roger

The fairing is interesting but I would have thought that it is not necessary

Do not just add things for the sake of it - just keep the basics - the lighter the better

(I agree that the Bike looks great - but that is not the point - getting there is the most effective and comfortable way is the objective - do not go over the top)

PS - start again and sell me the Bike?
 
I'm going to sit down over the weekend and list the work that's been done so watch this space for the full details. :eek:

Can I have one - make it a year later and I would come with you as I have been given permission by the "other half" - how long is the trip? - free from January 1st - once I have installed CH in the French "shack" - but maybe, after watching Top Gear, I will do the "Spanish" classic car rally's as i still have a couple of MGs and I really do prefer hotels.

Cleaned the 2CV today - it does look great and my Arsey will also think the same - but must get a LHD one

Anyone fancy starting a company for "classic bike rallies" - the "soft" ones aground France, Spain and Italy?
 
Roger

The fairing is interesting but I would have thought that it is not necessary

Do not just add things for the sake of it - just keep the basics - the lighter the better

(I agree that the Bike looks great - but that is not the point - getting there is the most effective and comfortable way is the objective - do not go over the top)

PS - start again and sell me the Bike?

Bill

The fairing came with the bike, I just retained it in the rebuild as it will be bloody useful riding through Northern Europe in January.

Check back in the thread and have a look at Performance Bikes March 1993 for some background.

As for selling the bike, you'll have to join the queue, at the moment you can have 8th dibs :P
 
None of you have got a Kalahari - you have all got Kalahari clones

Your right, I have a an R80GS Basic sold by Wegner's of Monheim on the 6th October 1997 for 16400 DM price inclusive of a
Kalahari tank to Detlev Simon who traded in his XR600R :thumb (Know your bikes history)

There were a number of Basics sold like this in Germany in 97 with plain white tanks as BMW ran out of stickers.
 

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Bill

The fairing came with the bike, I just retained it in the rebuild as it will be bloody useful riding through Northern Europe in January.

no you don't - I have ridden R80s in January in France with just a small screen

Check back in the thread and have a look at Performance Bikes March 1993 for some background.

I will


As for selling the bike, you'll have to join the queue, at the moment you can have 8th dibs :P

I have a couple of mates who can build a similar Bike in a month - how much are the other 7 prepared to pay
 
Your right, I have a an R80GS Basic sold by Wegner's of Monheim on the 6th October 1997 for 16400 DM price inclusive of a
Kalahari tank to Detlev Simon who traded in his XR600R :thumb (Know your bikes history)

There were a number of Basics sold like this in Germany in 97 with plain white tanks as BMW ran out of stickers.


Again - see my web site - the link is there

here

They ran out of the Kalahari stickers but not the Basic ones
 
How many of you are going to Gambia, (apologises if it is in the thread)
 
Roger,

I have never been RTW or off road in a big way and the longest that I have ridden in one day is 1,000 kms - so take my comments as just my (hopefully constructive) suggestions as sometimes such can be useful - they are not criticisms

As I said in an earlier post the Bike looks great and you have done a commendable job.

Here are just a few of my thoughts

Did you think about the twin BMW Disc set up with K calipers - rather than billet - I have never been a fan of billet - also the twin BM disc set up would give you options if one disc failed.

In my view you do not need a rev counter, (but an oil temp, oil pressure and voltmeter would be useful - I see that you have got two of these - I notice that you have a PD dash - if you can get the early one, it has one big hole and two small ones.

Although it looks useful - that fairing could be "hot" and (heavy) or have you included this this bring more weight balance, front versus rear, to the Bike- did you think about the BM PD screen and small fairing, maybe lighter and the BM "roo" bars can be useful - but maybe they will not fit with that HPN tank

Normal BM "floppy" indicators are good when they get knocked - they spring back.

Then just a few questions:

Presumably you have NOT fitted stainless spokes

How have you strengthened the rear sub frame to take all that weight that is going into those panniers

What have you done about the charging system - I always felt that it would be good to "wire in" say an additional PC680 as well as the normal 30Amp GS PD battery.

What will the Bike weigh, fully loaded - and what will the weight balance be like front versus rear when loaded - have you worked this out yet

Cheers
 
Roger,

I have never been RTW or off road in a big way and the longest that I have ridden in one day is 1,000 kms - so take my comments as just my (hopefully constructive) suggestions as sometimes such can be useful - they are not criticisms

As I said in an earlier post the Bike looks great and you have done a commendable job.

Here are just a few of my thoughts

Did you think about the twin BMW Disc set up with K calipers - rather than billet - I have never been a fan of billet - also the twin BM disc set up would give you options if one disc failed.

In my view you do not need a rev counter, (but an oil temp, oil pressure and voltmeter would be useful - I see that you have got two of these - I notice that you have a PD dash - if you can get the early one, it has one big hole and two small ones.

Although it looks useful - that fairing could be "hot" and (heavy) or have you included this this bring more weight balance, front versus rear, to the Bike- did you think about the BM PD screen and small fairing, maybe lighter and the BM "roo" bars can be useful - but maybe they will not fit with that HPN tank

Normal BM "floppy" indicators are good when they get knocked - they spring back.

Then just a few questions:

Presumably you have NOT fitted stainless spokes

How have you strengthened the rear sub frame to take all that weight that is going into those panniers

What have you done about the charging system - I always felt that it would be good to "wire in" say an additional PC680 as well as the normal 30Amp GS PD battery.

What will the Bike weigh, fully loaded - and what will the weight balance be like front versus rear when loaded - have you worked this out yet

Cheers

Did you think about the twin BMW Disc set up with K calipers - rather than billet - I have never been a fan of billet - also the twin BM disc set up would give you options if one disc failed.

No, I personally like Harrison Billet, give great braking with lots of feel when configured correctly and never had an issue with them in the past. The bike is not fitted with BMW forks or yolks so BMW parts are not a straight swap.

In my view you do not need a rev counter, (but an oil temp, oil pressure and voltmeter would be useful - I see that you have got two of these - I notice that you have a PD dash - if you can get the early one, it has one big hole and two small ones.

I personally like a rev counter plus this one has the oil pressure, charge, neutral and high beam status lights built in which saves space on the dash. On the subject of the dash its not a PD one but a one off which I had laser cut from checker alloy plate for strength and rigidity. When I say one off I had 3 made with different holes for different configurations plus a blank for unforeseen configurations.

Although it looks useful - that fairing could be "hot" and (heavy) or have you included this this bring more weight balance, front versus rear, to the Bike- did you think about the BM PD screen and small fairing, maybe lighter and the BM "roo" bars can be useful - but maybe they will not fit with that HPN tank

Its all a matter of compromise, riding from the Western Isles in winter through Europe the protection and "heat" provided by the fairing will be welcome, when it gets warmer that can be dealt with by removing some layers. The bikes suspension has been set up to deal with the fairing and its subframe.

Normal BM "floppy" indicators are good when they get knocked - they spring back.

Indeed they do.

Presumably you have NOT fitted stainless spokes

Not touched the wheels apart from checking them over and fitting new boots, they came as I got them from Colt's store cupboard.

How have you strengthened the rear sub frame to take all that weight that is going into those panniers

Nothing, the rear subframe is more than capable of handling any load I could place on it and then a bit more.

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What have you done about the charging system - I always felt that it would be good to "wire in" say an additional PC680 as well as the normal 30Amp GS PD battery.

Bike has had an Enduralast system fitted to handle charging and additional heated clothing, lights etc. In addition it has an Odessey 680 instead of the stock BMW battery plus Enduralast have supplied a spare combined regulator rectifier just in case.

What will the Bike weigh, fully loaded - and what will the weight balance be like front versus rear when loaded - have you worked this out yet

No idea and no is the answer, but I know a man who does and I'll let him sort the suspension out as he has more experience, in fact its how he makes his living :D
 
Bill, read the whole thread again...your answers are in there :thumb2

Thanks Kenny

23 Pages - quicker for Roger to tell me his toughts

Thanks Roger

That sub frame does look beefy
 
Little run around while tea was cooking to give you an idea of the bike on the move. :augie

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