Gas canister fitting EN417

[chrismckay]

Do any of you guys know for sure if the gas canister for a Jet Boil with the screw fitting EN417 is available in Croatia and Turkey?

Have just had a dry run at packing for an upcoming trip and I have at present a 450g JetBoil gas canister which is bulky, if I could readily purchase the EN417 screw fitting canister then I would take the smaller option which fits neatly inside the JetBoil (100g) and take a spare.

Are there any major outdoor stores common to the bigger cities/towns?

Chris....

 

[Wapping]

I have copied your post into the camping section, where someone might pick up on it too.

As to whether it’s possible, I have no idea. However, having once been stuck in France (somewhere far less exotic than Turkey) unable to find a Coleman (EN17) type gas canister, I bought myself a number of converters, enabling me to run assorted different gas canisters through the Coleman valve regulator on my stove. The converters weigh next to nothing and will last a lifetime.

Here’s a sample of just some of them. There are other converters too, enabling me to attach a Coleman valve regulator to assorted different gas canisters, including the notorious French totally valveless Camping Gaz canisters, where (lacking any valve at all) you puncture the canister.

To collect a full set, I simply got inventive with my Google searches, until I had found them all.

PS One clue, find out what the various valves are called, Coleman alone have two different types. This makes tracking down the converters easier, Lindal being one.

 

[AustinW]

You can definitely get them in Croatia. I got a couple of the 250g canisters on a trip there in 2018 from a campsite’s shop.

They are pretty universal are the EN417 connectors and so far I’ve been able to buy matching canisters everywhere I’ve been, it’s just sometimes it’s hard to know which is the right sort of shop to look in. In Europe Decathlon stores usually have them as do campsite shops. For Turkey have a look on the MSR/Optimus/Primus/Coleman website for a distributor in Turkey if they sell their stoves there I’m almost certain their gas canisters will be available too.

 

[Wapping]

They are pretty universal are the EN417….

Not in France, they ain’t. But there again, they are F… R….E…..N….C…..H, which just spells trouble.

The great thing about the converters is that, no matter where you are, you don’t have to go hunting for a distributor, when you’d rather be heating water for a brew (to use the vernacular). You just wander into any old hardware or camping type store and pick up a gas canister.

 

[Wapping]

A Google of ‘coleman gas canisters in turkey’

Throws up: https://cultureroutesinturkey.com/uncategorized/backpacking-stoves-and-suppliers-for-turkey/

This, if accurate from 2015, says there are several types in Turkey. Take your chance or take a converter? Do you feel lucky?

Gas cylinders (Gaz kartuş). Three types of fixing – pierce top, screw top and valve top. Gas dealers, hunting stores, Migros. Pierce top (ana gövde) are easy to find, medium price; valve top (kitlemeli) rare and not cheap; screw top (Vidalı) are still pretty rare and expensive. Edelrid makes an adaptor – get it before you come (Amazon). All come in two sizes – about 180gm and 500gm – the latter is used mainly in the Kaçkar. Cylinders can be mail ordered before you arrive and delivered to your hotel or any other address (including to us).

The words rare and expensive pop up in relation to ‘top valve’ and ‘screw top’. By the latter, I guess the author means ‘Coleman’ type, screw valves. Pierce top are, apparently, common. The author recommends the converters.

 

[chrismckay]

You can definitely get them in Croatia. I got a couple of the 250g canisters on a trip there in 2018 from a campsite’s shop.

They are pretty universal are the EN417 connectors and so far I’ve been able to buy matching canisters everywhere I’ve been, it’s just sometimes it’s hard to know which is the right sort of shop to look in. In Europe Decathlon stores usually have them as do campsite shops. For Turkey have a look on the MSR/Optimus/Primus/Coleman website for a distributor in Turkey if they sell their stoves there I’m almost certain their gas canisters will be available too.

Cheers Austin.....

 

[chrismckay]

A Google of ‘coleman gas canisters in turkey’

Throws up: https://cultureroutesinturkey.com/uncategorized/backpacking-stoves-and-suppliers-for-turkey/

This, if accurate from 2015, says there are several types in Turkey. Take your chance or take a converter? Do you feel lucky?



The words rare and expensive pop up in relation to ‘top valve’ and ‘screw top’. By the latter, I guess the author means ‘Coleman’ type, screw valves. Pierce top are, apparently, common. The author recommends the converters.

Thank you Wapping, I shall purchase some of those regulators you posted....nice one...

 

[boatman]

Off topic - but possibly worthy of consideration .When I go on wanders around the planet I always take a petrol stove ( MSR with a spare seal kit ) as petrol is universally available . As well as a jet boil.

 

[Wapping]

I was thinking that an ‘Omni fuel’ stove would cover all the bases.

 

[chrismckay]

Off topic - but possibly worthy of consideration .When I go on wanders around the planet I always take a petrol stove ( MSR with a spare seal kit ) as petrol is universally available . As well as a jet boil.

I was thinking that an ‘Omni fuel’ stove would cover all the bases.

I have pondered over one of those for years, I only use it to make a cup of coffee though and the JetBoil is excellent at that.

One thing I always wondered about those type of fuel stoves is do you get a fuel smell over yer stuff when transporting /filling it?

 

[Wapping]

The seal on the bottle of fuel is very good.

Not if you don’t pour fuel down your strides / bib.

Get a decent one, like a Primus.

 

[chrismckay]

The seal on the bottle of fuel is very good.

Not if you don’t pour fuel down your strides / bib.

Get a decent one, like a Primus.

Just ordered those adapters...

 

[Wapping]

You might find this post helpful:

https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showt...l-(non-Lindal-valve-screw-on)-and-other-types

Which leads to:

https://mercatorgear.com/product-category/all-kovea-stoves-and-adapters/page/3/

This bundle wasn’t available when I bought my individual converters.

 

[chrismckay]

You might find this post helpful:

https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showt...l-(non-Lindal-valve-screw-on)-and-other-types

Which leads to:

https://mercatorgear.com/product-category/all-kovea-stoves-and-adapters/page/3/

This bundle wasn’t available when I bought my individual converters.

Cheers Wapping....only one I havent ordered is the one for the self piercing canisters.....might order it yet!!!

 

[Wapping]

Cheers Wapping....only one I havent ordered is the one for the self piercing canisters.....might order it yet!!!

That might be handy as the linked Turkish newsletter thing said the valveless cans are common in Turkey.

 

[RD.]

Interesting thread.

I've got my eye (not literally! ) on a small gas burner which requires a gas cylinder with a standard type screw on thread / Lindal type valve.
What type of adaptors fit?
If someone would kindly list all the converters to fit, especially the dreaded French Gaz type, it would be greatly appreciated.

As an aside, I recall my dad having a serious accident and sustaining bad burns and huge blisters on his arms while installing a new Camping Gaz cylinder. I quickly learned from my dad's mistakes!

 

[Wapping]

Interesting thread.

I've got my eye (not literally! ) on a small gas burner which requires a gas cylinder with a standard type screw on thread / Lindal type valve.
What type of adaptors fit?
If someone would kindly list all the converters to fit, especially the dreaded French Gaz type, it would be greatly appreciated.

As an aside, I recall my dad having a serious accident and sustaining bad burns and huge blisters on his arms while installing a new Camping Gaz cylinder. I quickly learned from my dad's mistakes!

See post #2 and then Google away, it’s how I found mine, by Googling ‘Gas Canister Adapter’



The answer to your specific question about the dreaded French Gaz type, is in post #2,

This thought will save you some time:

Guide to Camping Gas Canisters

An axplanation of all the different types of camping gas canisters, plus clever adaptors that let you use them all and special ‘dual fuel’ stoves Quick links: Types of gas canister | Ga…

thenextchallenge.org

Scroll down, to find:

 

[RD.]

See post #2 and then Google away, it’s how I found mine, by Googling ‘Gas Canister Adapter’

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The answer to your specific question about the dreaded French Gaz type, is in post #2,

This thought will save you some time:

Guide to Camping Gas Canisters

An axplanation of all the different types of camping gas canisters, plus clever adaptors that let you use them all and special ‘dual fuel’ stoves Quick links: Types of gas canister | Ga…

thenextchallenge.org

Scroll down, to find:

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Thank you Wapping.

 

[Wapping]

Thank you Wapping.

No problem.

The adapters are very good, weigh very little and take up next to no space. Not least, they make you fully independent of the vagaries of local canisters.

 

[RD.]

No problem.

The adapters are very good, weigh very little and take up next to no space. Not least, they make you fully independent of the vagaries of local canisters.

This is one of the reasons why I use and prefer multi-fuel stoves. The other reasons are because of the waste and recycling and carrying empty cylinders to a recycling point but now I've discovered that gas canisters are able to be refilled by the consumer and adapters are now available for many different gas canisters, they are now more beneficial to use. Having said that, I don't think I would go on an adventure / camping trip without one of my MSR Dragonfly stoves.