GPX - 100 virees a moto - Michelin

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Another resource for .gpx files is Guide du Motard

There's about a hundred routes in pdf (roadbook format) and gpx formats.
I found the best way to download them is ti right click on the pdf or gpx you want and select "open link in new window"
This gives you the url to the viamichelin file. Press enter and it downloads.

It may just be that my browser does it in an an odd way and the "right click/save" may work for you.
 
Thank you.

That looks very much like the original Michelin 100 routes, which I spent several weeks (or longer) cutting into MapSource manually.
 
Unfortunately, I think the routes / tracks in the GPX files would need some manipulation to make them work properly on a GPS. I’d need to fire up my large twin screen Mac to do it, as using an iPad is making my brain hurt.

Irrespective, it’s a good find as the 100 routes are all there, they just need blowing on.
 
Unfortunately, I think the routes / tracks in the GPX files would need some manipulation


'Some' >>> ???? An understatement if ever I read one!!!what a mess.jpg
If you want them, using Chrome browser
Right click, save link, save and when you get the message 'insecure download blocked', press keep.
And if you really want to change all that mess into routes, I'd say you'll need a LOT of time & patience! Start blowing Richard!:D

p.s as an after thought- Would it not be useful to have a GPX repository somewhere on here to safeguard the files?
 
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I can get the outline of the track into Google ‘My Routes’ and into Pocket Earth but there is a problem:

1. The track does not follow the roads. The gap is too big for MyRoute to snap the track onto known roads.

2. The track / route has a lot of shaping points. This is not surprising, as it is a long route. MyRoute and, as I see, BaseCamp then joins these up. with the mass of straight lines. Pocket Earth can very often remove these straight lines, but here everything is integral, which means that the straight lines cannot be removed. Or, at least, I can’t find a way to do it.

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Somewhere, I have the 100 routes I created manually from the book, I would guess well over 10 years ago. These I created in MapSource, as BaseCamp hadn’t been launched. I remember the mass of blue flags of the shaping points and me using the route card and a paper map to create each of the 100 routes by hand.

Just as I finished, Michelin released them as GPX files, hidden away on one of their websites. Unfortunately, Michelin then didn’t maintain wherever it was they hid it away. Somewhere, lurking inside Michelin’s ‘systems’ the 100 GPX files are probably lurking around but them finding the key for the box they put them into is another matter entirely. Them even finding the box, is pretty doebtful.

Michelin have though launched the map, with its QR codes of routes, so maybe they’ll bring the 100 Virees back to life? I might try a letter to them to suggest it.

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Blimey, I had forgotten that I started recreating the 100 routes….

 
To give a better perspective, after a wee bit of clean up- I have changed the colours so that you can see each route...
So, if you actually wanted just one route for that particular file, you would join all these together.
Would I spend life doing it? errrr let me see...:sneaky: nah!great.jpg
 
I have found what I think is the original 100 routes, stuck away in a single but sub-divided folder my DropBox account.

Maybe someone would like to see what they can do with them?

 
I have contacted Michelin, asking if they plan to re-publish the ‘100 virees à moto book’ and, if so, will it have the GPX files? Failing that, can they bring the old GPX website back to life?

Let’s wait to see if they reply.
 
ok - I've zipped all the files and anyone wanting them ( if no longer in your dropbox) can pm me or I'll load them up here.
I've learned my lesson not to rely on any website for data storage as they can be here today and, in a blink of an eye, gone tomorrow.
FWIW Samsungs' credit sized SSDs are the dogs and plug in straight into Android phones. ( no idea about 🍏)
 
I have contacted Michelin, asking if they plan to re-publish the ‘100 virees à moto book’ and, if so, will it have the GPX files? Failing that, can they bring the old GPX website back to life?

Let’s wait to see if they reply.

Michelin are on the ball and have been very helpful.

Dear Richard,

Thank you for your message and trust in the Michelin products.

The Michelin Guide "100 virées à moto" will not be published again.

However, for your convenience, we kindly send you enclosed the GPX files requested and wish you a good receipt of them.

Your Michelin advisors are at your service and thank you for your trust.

Kind regards,

Sascha
ViaMichelin

I’ll now see what I can do with the attachment.IMG_5557.jpeg
 
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Not a great success, at least not on my iPad.

I can drop a route into Pocket Earth, where it will display OK. But, when I display it in MyRoute, I get the problem of the straight lines. Unless I can find a way to remove the waypoints but retain the route or track, the only method I can think of is to:

A. Work from the versions I created years ago in MspSource.

B. Trace over 100 routes.

Richard
 
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Is what they sent you Richard, the same as the gpx files on their site?

P.s
Here is a solution and the fastest I can think of probable saving a massive amount of time and effort.
Download and open the files.
Since they follow roads, in BC create a new route manually by following the points as per pic.
 

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I have no idea, not least as the Michelin 100 Virees site is dead.

I think I have worked out a part of the problem. The routes have lots of waypoints. MyRoute and BaseCamp are joining these up but sometimes starting the route in the middle, not at one end. It’s annoying as Pocket Earth is, I think, displaying them perfectly, even if the track is a bit offset from the road. That is simply down to a difference in the base maps used. If I can get the tracks, without the points, things would be very easy, I think.

Yarkto, if you can PM your me your email address, I’ll forward the zipped file that Michelin provided me with.

Richard
 
For a quick and dirty conversion in basecamp.

Download the file
Load it into basecamp
100routes1.jpg

The reason its giving you straight lines is that each segment is not in sequence. Click on each segment in turn in a clockwise direction (does not matter were you start or finish) holding down the shift key and this highlights each segment in order. When you get to the start again right click and select joint the routes. You now have one big route. But there are way to many waypoints in the route convert it to a track

100routes3.jpg

The track and route were made using the direct profile highlighted.

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Making sure that the direct profile is selected in basecamp convert it back to a route. This will give you a dialog box allowing you to enter the max number of via points for the route in this case the route is 160 miles ish so I selected 80 via points (there are loads in the combined route and track.

100routes5.jpg

you will get this
100routes6.jpg

Spiky route. Put the route calculation profile back to motorcycling and hit recalculate again.

This is the raw result.
100routes7.jpg
Not perfect but easy to rubber band or stick in MRA and alter as it follows the roads. Takes a few minutes to do and 45mins to explain :D
 
So handy to download the Michelin routes and convert as you need them(y)
 
Thank you for post #17.

The segments (which are not in order) explains why MyRoute was starting the route in the middle and the straight lines. It’s odd though that Pocket Earth could read through it and sort it out.

There is no way that I know of to get MyRoute to reorganise the segments automatically and it’s difficult manually, as yiu have to do it point by point by point. This is made worse when the start point has been plonked in the middle.
 


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