I don't know why everybody says that Audi owns Ducati...in reality it is Volkswagen that owns all brands of the Volkswagen group including Audi & Ducati...
As for the KTM being a "ballistic missile" I won't agree...The KTM being a little south , the Ducati a little north of 10 seconds 0-125 any 1000 cc superbike will shave 3 seconds off that time...The bike being the closest to compare to the GS,MS,SADVS the S1000XR will split it with 8,5 seconds 0-125 putting 21 hp more than the KTM and 14 hp more than the Duc on the same dyno...Too bad the XR was excluded from this comparison by MOTORRAD.
Ohhhhh Lord ....
I so want to go for a ride with Boxerlust down an English country A road .....
Then he'd really understand how little figures on paper mean .....
Not ridden the Ducati, but owned a 1290 SAS until I chopped it in for the 1250 GS.
The KTM when ridden hard gets very flighty on the front and can be 'entertaining' at times. It also drones from the air intake. Ultimately a little faster in a straight line with the top end rush, but I'd not swap back.
True words , said the same myself about the handling .
The R is worse still on the road starting from lower speeds assuming you have the R wheels. I went off on one for a test ride and had to really counter steer like crazy to get in around corners. Operator error to start with so balancing the front end dive and the larger diameter front wheel takes some doing, but ultimately I think the GS is a better road bike (tyres etc taken into account too).
As for numbers they don't mean much I totally agree when riding fast on backroads...That is why the GS fights way above its class
The modern GS doesn’t have any class!
The modern GS doesn’t have any class!



Frankly, who gives a shit?
The words 'Class' 'Soul' 'Character' etc. are all expressions used by people that feels the need to justify the ownership of their POS bike![]()
I guess you do as you needed to comment .
A modern GS is a great form of two wheeled transport .
But for some it lacks any character or soul. It’s not a bike you glance back at as you close the garage door .
It’s not a case of justifying ownership!
Some of us ride for pleasure and the feeling it gives . We ride bikes that look good and make you smile when you open the garage door .
It’s a heart thing for some and a head thing for others . Simples.



In your humble opinion , I spend hours looking at my GS and find it beautiful . I often sit with her having a chat and a beer , the KTM however is in the shed where it belongs. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder . I only ride for pleasure and the last 350 plus mile rides I did , I did not want to get off it as it just makes me buzz and have not had another bike that gives me that feeling . But your taste and mine are different and I respect that (even thouI can't understand your choices at time lol)
To add I keep trying to have a change and swap bikes with others on a regular basis but find other bikes lacking.. simples .
We are all different !
The bike that makes me smile the most currently is my £2000 Benelli TNT !!
A Benelli that runs, that would make me smile as well.
A Benelli that runs, that would make me smile as well.
