GS rider in Taiwan almost killed by drunk driver

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Hello Everyone,

I've been a lurker in this forum for a while and posted just a few times. 10 days ago, I was rear ended by a drunk driver while out for a little weekend ride out in the Taiwanese country side.

My friend who was riding with me(GS as well, and posts here under the user name "Plasmatron") wrote up the whole event and took pictures of the accident.

The outcome was bad, but could have been worse. However, the difficult part is realising that this situation happened entirely out of my control. I will ride again, although with a little more to worry about other than my own riding skill.

Full event write-up and pics, visit this thread:
http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?t=55828

Cheers
 
Thats one hell of a write up and glad to see that you made it out alive.

Respect to Plasmatron though, he certainly knew what he was doing post-accident and a good job he did.

Wishing you a speedy recovery mate :beer:

Gazzr
 
Hey Guys,

The server that the write-up and pics are on will be down for a bit. This happens quite a bit here in Taiwan. All should be ok a bit later. Sorry for this.

Cheers
 
Being rear ended on a bike is almost always fatal....very lucky man.
 
A very disturbing tale in lots of ways. Not least was the tone of the account which referred to Taiwanese as 'human scum' and in various other perjorative terms. I know there are people all over the world who will behave as badly as some of those described seem to have done but I don't think any of them deserves such a description.
 
the term I used was "human garbage" DrKen and if you had paid attention to what you read before your little holier than thou, kneejerk post above, you would have noticed that it was in reference to one individual, not the Taiwanese as a whole, but by all means if you feel one should be sugary sweet and PC about a guy who deliberately gets blind drunk, then goes out driving in a busy urban area, loses control of his car attempting a reckless overtake, slams into lamp post, than an innocent motorcyclist and then the front porch of an OAP very nearly killing several innocent people in the process including a fellow biker who happens to be a good friend of yours, then steps right over the body of said friend who is lying seriously injured, pinned under his car in order to flee the scene of the accident, only to later announce that it was nothing to do with him merely "fate" that caused the accident, then you and I DrKen have severely differing points of view... if you would like to base yours on anything other than feel good, sanctimonious, "we are the world" drivel, then by all means come over to Taiwan and get some first hand experience... I'll meet you in the ICU ward after your crash to record your flowery character reference for these 'salt of the earth' drunk drivers who's defense you're so keen to rush to... prat... :spitfire
 
Plasmatron

BEFORE this goes further, please note i have Very Strong Feelings on crashes/accidents /cause+effect and taking responsiblity for actions, so i can understand your depth of feeling - but DrKen is only pointing out your own words -
quote below;
...yet another inbred binlang chewing example of the human garbage that makes up the majority of the population of rural Taiwan...
...the Taiwanese were about to demonstrate the caliber of their collective characters on a grand scale…
... the scum that makes up a large percentage of Taiwanese society turned up ...

how are we expected to read that? :nenau

sincerely hope your mate gets well soon :thumb
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Og
 
Close Shave!

I'm glad you are OK - there is no doubt you could just as easily have been killed. I have zero tolerance for drunk drivers (and their pathetic excuses). My Grandmother was knocked down and killed by a drunk bus driver one Christmas Eve before I was born - I would love to have known her.

If something like this is going to happen, you need friends like Plasmatron around to sort things out. There are scumbags in every society - I think he just happens to be referring to the one's in Taiwan. I've never been to Taiwan, so am in no position to comment one way or the other - but his views seem to be founded on a lot of experience (eight years out there and speaks the lingo) AND he has a Taiwanese wife, so he is hardly likely to "dis" the Taiwanese population as a whole. :nenau

Plasmatron will also have suffered shock witnessing his friend's accident and has understandably strong feelings about the scrote that was involved . I think we should cut him a little slack! :thumb

Cheers,

Psyko
 
Thank you Ogmios for correcting my misquotation.

Plasmatron, you seem to be reading an awful lot into my very short post above, to make the kinds of judgements you have made about me. I am completely in favour of people taking responsibility for their actions and as hostile as anybody to the kind of behaviour and attitude (on the part of the car driver) in this account. I'm as pleased as anyone that martymcfly / Captain Stag is OK. I also stand by my earlier words; I have met some right arseholes who happen to be English or American for example, and yes there are even a couple of people in Scotland I don't have time for ;) . We have a lot of Taiwanese men and women here where I work, as students, and most of them are people I would be happy to have as friends. None of them fit the stereotype you present. Which doesn't mean there aren't any people in Taiwan who fit that but nor does that justify your diatribe.

And just to return the abuse, try writing in sentences :nono 'prat' yourself. Take a deep breath before replying.
 
'kin ell guys that was a close call. Glad you are OK and congrats on a good response Plasmatron. :thumb I think a bit of impassioned venting is allowed given the near death experience and the recklesness and callousness displayed by the twat that caused it.
 
martymcfly said:
The outcome was bad, but could have been worse. However, the difficult part is realising that this situation happened entirely out of my control. I will ride again, although with a little more to worry about other than my own riding skill.

Cheers
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Hope you're back on the road soon martymcfly. Just had a very brief read of the report that you've linked with this thread. You were indeed extremely lucky to survive that crash.

I'm not familiar with how the Taiwanese (sorry poor spelling) law works with regards drunk drivers but for everyones sake I hope they lock him up for a very long time alongwith his 'accomplice' that lied to the authorites as to who was the main driver of the vehicle. Thats shocking :eek

Still, its good to hear you're on the mend ..... stay positive :thumb

:)
 
Ogmios said:
BEFORE this goes further, please note i have Very Strong Feelings on crashes/accidents /cause+effect and taking responsiblity for actions, so i can understand your depth of feeling - but DrKen is only pointing out your own words -
quote below;
...yet another inbred binlang chewing example of the human garbage that makes up the majority of the population of rural Taiwan...
...the Taiwanese were about to demonstrate the caliber of their collective characters on a grand scale…
... the scum that makes up a large percentage of Taiwanese society turned up ...

how are we expected to read that? :nenau

sincerely hope your mate gets well soon :thumb
~~
Og
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Me too, hope it all works out for him.

I do also agree with the above. I chose a few years back to do half a year in europe and half in asia. Two reasons.

Firstly moving to Asia full time tends to be a one way move, its hard financialy to move back.
Secondly, too many ex pats become negative about the locals being lazy useless etc. I did not want this to happen to us. When we spend five months in Asia each year the people are great. I don't get involved with local politics and I respect everybody. :thumb
 
Thanks for the support guys. The object of my post was to highlight the dangers incurred to riders from angles that we don't have any control on, not about Plasmatron's choice of words. In fact, such an emotions towards a good amount of the population here doesn't go unjustified. I, myself, have given up on trying to explain to friends and family back home how upside down Taiwan can be. This is not on a small scale either, it's closer to what I call the "twilight zone" scale where one would never imagine that such low behavior would be generally accepted by a fair amount of the population outside of Taipei.....it IS that bad, and I can vouch for this by saying that the only decent locals that I met through this ordeal have been the doctors and nurses in the hospital. Every other party involved, including the police, have demonstrated a total lack of regards towards the human form and life itself. :nenau

I've been here for a fair amount of years and there sure is a positive side to this place with beautiful scenery and interesting history. However, despite it's stance as a major player in the global computer industry, (which would lead one to think that things are smart and ship-shape here) Taiwan is far behind and lacking in any formal and sensible social infrastructure. The contrast is huge and greatly misleading to those on the outside. Rest assured that there would be no so-called "bashing" if it wasn't warranted.

So, big thanks to Plasmatron and all he's done.

Cheers
 
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