GSA Stopping distance.

[snerkler]

This opened my eyes up to just how much stopping these heavy monsters take (First 12s)

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[EggChaser]

If you do the Off-Road School in Wales then one of the exercises is accelerate towards some cones (in an almost flat dirt/non-tarmac paddock) and when you reach the cones stamp on the back brake to see how long a skid you can maintain (and not drop)

Really good fun, however does have a serious objective, as it helps you to learn how the bike feels when the back is skidding and to a certain extent how to balance the skid.

 

[snerkler]

If you do the Off-Road School in Wales then one of the exercises is accelerate towards some cones (in an almost flat dirt/non-tarmac paddock) and when you reach the cones stamp on the back brake to see how long a skid you can maintain (and not drop)

Really good fun, however does have a serious objective, as it helps you to learn how the bike feels when the back is skidding and to a certain extent how to balance the skid.

Do you think the guy in the video is rear wheel braking only then, as it looks as thought the front dips (as much as the GS's do anyway)?

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

I would say he has the ABS switched off and is only using the rear brake

 

[littleredrooster]

Deffo only using the rear brake.

In a road test a couple of years back, the only thing which stopped quicker than a 1200GS was a GSXR-1000. Eight (or so) other bikes were waayyy behind in braking ability. GS was on Tourances too, IIRC!

 

[snerkler]

Well that makes me feel a whole lot better then. Ironically enough the only emergency braking (outside of the direct access course) I've had to do was on my Gixxer 1000. Touch wood I never have to do one again. I was lucky that time, the couple I was with weren't so much.

Am I imagining seeing the front dip slightly then, or would jamming the rear brake on cause this?

littleredrooster, on this test did they compare a GS to a GSA in terms of stopping distance?

 

[(RIP) Johno23]

There used to be a flim on youtube which coz Im crap i can't find now,but it was a guy in the states testing his ABS on a GS .He was on a country road in the dark doing over 60 when he just grabbed everything as hard as he could and feck me did he pull up quick and with NO scary moments at all.Very impressive

 

[mr_magicfingers]

I did the i2i machine control courses a few weeks back. One of the exercises was progressively braking harder and harder. I was managing stoppies on my 1150gs and pulling up faster than the guys with ABS brakes.

Most people never, ever brake as hard as they could, as they've never gone and properly practiced it. I was astonished to hear the 'clang' of the rear end coming back down.

If you want to learn to brake really effectively, go and get some tuition or find an empty car park and progressively increase your braking effort. I now practice when I can and I'm constantly impressed by how fast my 1150 will stop if I give it full anchor.

 

[littleredrooster]

...littleredrooster, on this test did they compare a GS to a GSA in terms of stopping distance?

No - it was just a GS. Can't imagine it would be very different with an Adventure, though. Weight (CoG) is perhaps slightly higher which may help the front not to 'push' in extremis.

 

[Smug]

Back brake only.

We all go out to see how fast we can go but not many of us practise how quickly we can stop.

A good exercise on an empty road is to guess how late you can leave the braking to stop at a mark on the road. You might be surprised when you see how much space you need to stop from 90mph, let alone any faster.

 

[CuzGS]

My GSA has a back brake ?

 

[Dainese Brave]

I did the i2i machine control courses a few weeks back. One of the exercises was progressively braking harder and harder. I was managing stoppies on my 1150gs and pulling up faster than the guys with ABS brakes.

Most people never, ever brake as hard as they could, as they've never gone and properly practiced it. I was astonished to hear the 'clang' of the rear end coming back down.

If you want to learn to brake really effectively, go and get some tuition or find an empty car park and progressively increase your braking effort. I now practice when I can and I'm constantly impressed by how fast my 1150 will stop if I give it full anchor.

Who did you do the machine control course through?

 

[Nutty]

If you do the Off-Road School in Wales then one of the exercises is accelerate towards some cones (in an almost flat dirt/non-tarmac paddock) and when you reach the cones stamp on the back brake to see how long a skid you can maintain (and not drop)

Really good fun, however does have a serious objective, as it helps you to learn how the bike feels when the back is skidding and to a certain extent how to balance the skid.

And they get you to lock the front wheel as well (not at the same time as the back brake), continuing to accelerate, and see how long you can keep the skid going.

 

[EggChaser]

And they get you to lock the front wheel as well (not at the same time as the back brake), continuing to accelerate, and see how long you can keep the skid going.

I only did the basic course where they get you to understand the feel of the front as it starts to lock. Enjoyed the back brake more as the front feels scary

 

[EggChaser]

Do you think the guy in the video is rear wheel braking only then, as it looks as thought the front dips (as much as the GS's do anyway)?

Isn't here something odd about the fancy front suspension that means it will dip slightly even though you are braking at the back?

 

[Fanum]

Isn't here something odd about the fancy front suspension that means it will dip slightly even though you are braking at the back?

It doesn't dip, so much as sort of curtsey.
Erm, that doesn't make sense, .....it doesn't dive, but it sort of squats

There's an animation somewhere that shows how it all works, good to watch as it then makes sense of how the whole thing works.

 

[snerkler]

It doesn't dip, so much as sort of curtsey.
Erm, that doesn't make sense, .....it doesn't dive, but it sort of squats

There's an animation somewhere that shows how it all works, good to watch as it then makes sense of how the whole thing works.

Any idea where one can find this animation?

 

[GrinningGSer]

From a bike mag several years ago and not a GSA but GS

I think the brakes are fabulous

 

[snerkler]

From a bike mag several years ago and not a GSA but GS

I think the brakes are fabulous

Wouldn't want to be on the V-Strom

I'm more confident now I've been informed that that vid shows rear braking only

 

[wadham]

Unstoppable