Has anyone seen/taken delivery of a 2015 GS yet?

Engineer said:
None of my 1200s have had a gearbox problem, 2005, 2010, and now my 2013. The 2005 and 2010 were typical GS dry clutch gearboxes, bit clunky and agricultural, the occasional false neutral but once one had adapted to their quirks all were good enough. My very early 2013 is very different as one would expect from a multi-plate wet clutch - it has some clutch drag and clonks into 1st most of the time (just like many other wet clutch bikes from all manufacturers). If you pussy foot around with the lever it will rattle and vibrate back through the lever because of the clutch drag - no real surprise there. Once you have learnt the rapid shift up and blip down techniques all is sweetness and light :)
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Strange that the wet clutches in my japanese bikes or multistrada 1200s had no such quirks or required special techniques.

Seriously, something aint right with it and its going in for a service soon so i will be telling em so.

Still love the bike tho.
 
SiRich said:
Strange that the wet clutches in my japanese bikes or multistrada 1200s had no such quirks or required special techniques.

Seriously, something aint right with it and its going in for a service soon so i will be telling em so.

Still love the bike tho.
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So the GS is different, haven't BMWs always been this way? i.e. Quirky and different.

PS some Japanese sports bikes and others certainly do clonk into 1st with lots of clutch drag - I used to cringe at our local bike meet as the power rangers set off on their bikes after an evening talking bollox and a pint of shandy, CLACK, CLACK, CLUNK, SMACK..........:D
 
15 my GS

Well I've had my red GS 1200TE for 5 days, ridden 200 miles.

Bike is standard TE with gear shift assist.

My observations over the previous demo rides I've had since bike was launched are.

Engine seems to be a fair bit quieter at tick over and under load.

No funny noises from the engine when you halt / stop.

Gearbox seems to be improved still clunks into first and neutral seems more difficult to find than my last GSA hex head.

Love the gear shift assist.

Love the suspension.

Love the performance.

I am very pleased with it versus the 13 plate GSA I traded in.

:aidan
 
I must have been lucky, the 2014 gs gearbox was pretty good as we're the previous gsa s, typically needing a firm approach,
the 2013 multistrada was a very vocal clunky gearbox which needed pre load or it would find many false neutrals,
it was very sensitive to chain tension which would slap when crunching loudly into first, and the low speed fuelling being the dual spark was rubbish in town, to the point I put the 14 t front sprocket on in attempt to calm it down, pulling away the revs would flare up at a sniff of throttle, the suspension felt crude if you weren't working it hard,,
In summary unrefined and overpriced compared to the gs, super fast yes,,,,
I strongly advise trying a demo, it will put the gs in a different light,
Any more news on the new 2015 engine,,, mine arrives in a week or so,,
 
Engineer said:
So the GS is different, haven't BMWs always been this way? i.e. Quirky and different.

PS some Japanese sports bikes and others certainly do clonk into 1st with lots of clutch drag - I used to cringe at our local bike meet as the power rangers set off on their bikes after an evening talking bollox and a pint of shandy, CLACK, CLACK, CLUNK, SMACK..........:D
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I was out for 8 hours on the bike today, pre loading the lever and the smallest clutch pull seems to get round any issues. First bike ive had to adjust my technique to avoid the box sounding like its about to eat itself. Never one false neutral though in its defence.

Top day on the bike, such a superb bike, shit loads of em about though saw two identical TE bikes at devils bridge even same thunder grey colour in space of half an hour.
 
I have. 2015 spec, Frozen dark blue metallic .
New engine excellent much quieter than my 2013 bike I had.
Gear box fine, gear change seems much more positive, and neutral easy to select.
Heavier crank makes engine much smoother, and feels like more engine braking.
Love updated quick shifter, it even blips throttle when changing down.
 
my 2014 gsa has 366 miles on the clock,the gearchange from first to second is shocking, the esa even on its softest solo settings is far too harsh and non compliant and the general fit and finish is a lot worse than my 2011 gsa
 
Neil W said:
my 2014 gsa has 366 the esa even on its softest solo settings is far too harsh and non compliant and the general fit and finish is a lot worse than my 2011 gsa
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I took a GSA demo out over the week and i also found the ESA to be harsh, every bump jarred me out the seat and i could feel the rd surface thro the bars, it wasn't good.

In some ways the the previous twin-cam is a better bike.
 
I've recently returned from a 3000 mile trip on my GSA LC and have no issues with the gearbox. It was worked hard doing many mountain passes and lots of clutch less up shifts. All silky smooth.
Engaging first I sometimes get a clunk but have been on GS's for ten years so quite used to that but even that seems to be less and less now the mileage is creeping up a bit. Certainly no grinding of the upper gears. :nenau that does not seem right at all.

Jon
 
It's not the gearbox on the new GSA that's a problem it is the suspension that's crap as Neil said above far to harsh and none compliant.
The same ESA works fine on the GS. I wonder if it is the taller frame of the GSA thats causing a problem or what? Who knows,can Mr. BMW give us an answer.....
 
Wolf GB said:
It's not the gearbox on the new GSA that's a problem it is the suspension that's crap as Neil said above far to harsh and none compliant.
The same ESA works fine on the GS. I wonder if it is the taller frame of the GSA thats causing a problem or what? Who knows,can Mr. BMW give us an answer.....
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I'm happy with my suspension, noticeable difference between soft normal and hard.

However when on my trip I set it to one rider with luggage thus raising up the rear. started to notice a vibration in 4th between 40 and 50mph. I popped into Stuttgart Motorrad and they advised to lower it back down as my luggage was not heavy enough (large soft bag about 15kg) and it improved things immensely.

Lesson learned there, he said as the angle of the output shaft and final drive increases the vibration becomes more apparent. Not just on the GSA as well :nenau

Jon :beerjug:
 
We were running two up and the suspension was almost rigid, dropped it down to solo with luggage and it is still too harsh, on the solo setting it is just about acceptable two up.
It feels like the tyre pressures are about 10 psi too high . they are not but it makes you wonder why they list higher tyre pressures for the wc 1200gsa in comparison to the older air cooled 1200gsa which is a heavier bike.
Solo with the bike set up for one, on the softest road setting you can feel every imperfection of the road surface and every bump gives you a jolt in the spine.
Bm need to do a major rethink on the esa, it is linked to the computer so why when a bike is bought can they not dial in a base map for an individual rider in bike gear ie 14 stones or 20 stone and let the bike work from there.
Instead you have a suspension set up that is severely compromised from the start.
 
Neil W said:
Bm need to do a major rethink on the esa, it is linked to the computer so why when a bike is bought can they not dial in a base map for an individual rider in bike gear ie 14 stones or 20 stone and let the bike work from there.
Instead you have a suspension set up that is severely compromised from the start.
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Now that is a good idea:thumb2
 
2015 gs

It's good to know the heavier crank has a benefit on the new gs,
Sorry to hear so many woes with the ESA , it should be better by now,
All my bmw s have been including the soon to arrive gs , basic non ESA with heated grips ,
I had aftermarket suspension fitted on my previous 3 gsa s with the option of fitting to the next bike , so fairly cost effective and a big improvement over stock,
The 14 plate gs seemed quite good so I will hold off giving ohlins my money until I have had some time with the 2015 gs ,,not rubbing it in I ride solo and prefer manual suspension,,
Good luck with the ESA faults as it seems the dealer workshops ( independent profit centres ) seem to be fobbing many owners off with many obvious issues that might be a cost risk to the department, messing customers about instead of spending time they should to investigate properly , which is pretty poor really,
Any more news with the new gs,,,,
 
Neil W said:
We were running two up and the suspension was almost rigid, dropped it down to solo with luggage and it is still too harsh, on the solo setting it is just about acceptable two up.
It feels like the tyre pressures are about 10 psi too high . they are not but it makes you wonder why they list higher tyre pressures for the wc 1200gsa in comparison to the older air cooled 1200gsa which is a heavier bike.
Solo with the bike set up for one, on the softest road setting you can feel every imperfection of the road surface and every bump gives you a jolt in the spine.
Bm need to do a major rethink on the esa, it is linked to the computer so why when a bike is bought can they not dial in a base map for an individual rider in bike gear ie 14 stones or 20 stone and let the bike work from there.
Instead you have a suspension set up that is severely compromised from the start.
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Some chalk and cheese differences in suspension findings on here. I know PaulGBHT is having similar issues as you with harsh suspension etc. I know there is some software updates on gearbox and suspension but unsure if it's a fix or not :nenau

On soft mine glides effortlessly over bumps and you hardly feel anything transferred from the road surface to rider. on dynamic and hard setting you really feel it as well, much more road surface bumps fed up to rider and I used this for the mountain passes as didn't want the bike wallowing into hairpin bends. On normal roads in the dry I use dynamic and normal and this seems to be my favourite setting :D

On the motorways I have soft setting and I bounce along quite nicely wallowing up and down over the bumps. Not sure what the answer is as I've not noticed any difference between my new bike and my 2008 1200GSA with dynamic ESA :nenau

Hope you get it sorted out ok :thumb

Jon
 
Hello all....new on here.Just got a 2015 gs..done 300 miles and very pleased with it. The gear box is not perfect but is better than the 14 spec demo...it's got sift assist which is great..auto blip is a hoot.As for the suspension I think it works very well..crashes on large holes but do you expect?.. Coming from a Honda CT this things got far more grip from the front,plus the option to tighten the ride up.it steers much faster,feels better at low speed..not just the balance but also the low speed fuelling.The bikes far more stable and stronger under hard braking.Its much more agile in all circumstances.The motor on the CT had a better torque curve which gave it very good traction..really good engine but it felt like a ferry compare to the GS..plus the dealers are poor.All in all I'm very pleased with the bike..just one problem.... I said I'd never turn to the dark side and buy a GS....the shame.
 
I rode a 13 GS for 15 months until it stopped working a month ago. I loved the revvy engine and quick pickup and the cornering confidence, comfort & grip was excellent. To me, the steering was not quick, you had to anticipate and setup the turn a little early as there is a lag on leaning in but it became second nature. The bike feels light and nimble at any speed and so comfortable for a long trip.

I found it hard to pull up on the brakes after 6-7000 klm, especially when they were warm to hot. Rear pads were almost worn to metal at 9000 klm, the fronts were due to be changed. No brake sensors on this whizzbang bike, I was shocked.

Still, I loved it and miss it dearly. Waiting for a new one next month. Riding 50 klm a day on a smoky FZ6 shitbox with zero torque under 4000 and zero technology is not fun or safe for that matter after the GS.

I am dying to try out the new 15 and hoping that the engine still delivers the same revvy dynamic performance. I am thinking that it will be a bit more subdued but it will pack more torque at all rpm. This will help move my lardy ass and daily commute luggage nicely off the line.
 
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