Helmet choice - help!

[(RIP) Bin Ridin]

Hi,

Trying to choose between a C2 Schuberth GBP280 and a Caberg J1 GBP140 (prices approx). I have a C1, scratched and 6 years old so time to change it.

Does the collective think I will be happy with a Caberg?

Bin

 

[Bananaman]

I have a Caberg Justisimo and am very pleased with it.

Noise levels as quiet as any previous helmet especially with ear plugs.

 

[STUBBS]

i have the c2 its the quitest flip top helmet ive owned

 

[Flipfly]

I have an Nolan Ncom because the Caberg just didn't feel like a quality helmet to me. The Nolan is respectably good and comfy (I've always had Arai before) and the catches for the flip seem nice and strong.

Just a thought that it might be worth trying. Don't buy one for the Ncom system though cause it is very limited unless you force one on your passenger (not ideal as you should buy on fit and if their head ain't the same you may as well buy a cheap pan from argos!!!).

If I had the money i would go schuberth.

 

[dlevett]

I've just ordered a Caberg Justissimo so, hopefully, will have some feedback in a couple of weeks. The idea looks great - clear visor with a tinted visor which can be up, down, or anywhere in between - if it works, it should solve all the problems or riding during the day, at night, and with the setting sun.

Fingers crossed - not a bad price though! Around 150 quid, but 40 quid for a spare visor!

 

[(RIP) Bin Ridin]

Hi dlevett,

I'll be very interested to hear what you think of it. Where are you buying it from?

What helmet have you now?

Bin

 

[dlevett]

I'm buying from Designer Helmets.

Currently I am using an Arai Tour X - I like the 'peak' because I can use a clear visor (and sun glasses during the day) - Oh and it 'fits' with the bike! I've tried a moto-X type helmet and goggles but, for the road, it is useless (not least of which because you can't 'safety check' over your shoulder very easily).

Previously, for the past 15 years or so, I have had various Shoei and Arai helmets (I have a Simpson Super Bandit, but don't wear that much - now that is a noisy helmet!).

I'll certainly let you know what I think.

Cheers,

David.

 

[Padge]

Bin
I'm using a Justisimmo.. Got it from Crossans in Newry for 140quid delivered to my door..

It's noisy, but no noiser than many flips I've used.
The Internal dark visor thing looks like a gimmick, but once you've used it you'll love it. Good to ride with the main visor up and the tinted down for good airflow and a bit of protection.

Don't think they seal very well in the rain, but again no better or worse than most it seems.

As for safety, it is the only flip helmet I've seen that's certified for motorsport, so must be ok?

Overall, great summer helmet.. Average Winter helmet... But for 140quid, not bad.

 

[(RIP) Bin Ridin]

Hi,

Thanks for the info, you could not ride far with a Schuberth flip up and sunvisor down, so that is a plus.

Might spin up to Crossans and try one for size when I am home next.

Bin

 

[Ian Loveday]

I have a Nolan N-com N102 about a month old and i clearly dont have the right shaped head so if anyone is after a silver large one drop me a line [email protected]

 

[dlevett]

Just used my Caberg Justissimo for the first time (long story why it took so long to arrive!).

First impressions:
- Fit and finish appear good
- The flip down inner visor is fantastic (though could do with being darker for here in Jo'burg)
- The 'chin' is very close/touching (I don't have a 'pronounced' chin, so any of you with Mr Punch trye features may find it too close)
- Noise wise, it is about on par with my Aria Tour X (i.e. not very quiet, but others have said it is on par with other 'flip-up' helmets)
- Ventilation is OK, rather than good or outstanding

Overall first impressions are good

 

[Packer]

I used a Caberg Justissimo for 3 miserable years, I'm tight and refused to scrap it until it was a decent age, even going so far as to fit modified seals to it myself, but it is the most useless piece of plastic trash if you ever ride in the wet.

The seals are hopeless so water runs down the inside of the visor. (The System 5 that I replaced it with is far better but still not perfect, handicapped by a shallow v shape in the top visor edge that just encourages water to collect.)

The ventilator in the chin guard is brilliantly designed to funnel rain and project it onto the inside of the visor (and your face) where it meets the river flowing down from the top and reduces your visibility to dangerous levels.

This is all enhanced by a stready supply of drips that drop out of the sun shield slot having leaked in around the ventilator on the top.

Then of course it mists so badly that you have to open the visor at which point things go from terribly, horribly bad to even worse. Words fail me.

You can ask Voyager on this forum about his views, he rides in all weathers as well and I am confident that he will second my views. He actually has a more diificult time as he also wears glasses for riding.

If on the other hand you never ride in the rain it's great. The sun shield is brilliant as long as you remember to clean it after every ride as dust gets in to it, even in the up position and this causes glare when you flip it down.

Incidentally, I'm 5' 10" tall riding an 1150GS with Tobinated standard screen in the highest position angled well back so that I get smooth air flow at head level. These details are all as important as the choice of helmet itself and others may have a prefectly good experience with this helmet.

 

[dlevett]

Packer,

I think your views are shared by a lot of people. I'm very lucky that here in Johannesburg it is quite dry, except when it rains! (when it rains, it doesn't so much rain as fall out of the sky - hence you don't want to be riding in it! but it doesn't tend to last long). Therefore I only really intend to use it in the dry (humidity is very low here also).

I also am about 5'10" on a good day, and have a NN Cockpit screen fitted, which I like (and have torbinators as a back up if I put the standard screen back on). I didn't want to go bigger-and-bigger with the screen to stop the buffeting, so went the other way. I like this set-up, though it has had the effect that the wind catches the peak on my Arai Tour X when I do life savers at speed (before I got the Caberg I have used this with a clear visor and sun glasses).

The idea of the flip down visor is great, since I use the bike for work, and have been caught out a couple of times when I've escaped from work late and it has started to get dark .

I am fortunate that I have a selection of helmets (Arai Tour X, Shoei X8?, Simpson Super Bandit, Kiwi motocross type thingie, Caberg Justissimo).

On a weekend ride, I think I would use the Shoei with a dark visor (very quiet), for work it's the Caberg for the advantages of the flip front and secondary visor , if I were going touring, I think I would put the standard screen back on with the Torbinators and would use the Arai Tour X - I can't think of a time when I would use the Simpson (it has slots on the top to let the rain in, is very noisy, and doesn't have the field of view for like savers - a left over from my GSXR hooligan days I'm afraid ).

So I guess after all the waffle above, it is 'horses for courses'.

Cheers .

 

[the_laughing_mole]

I've had a Justissimo for nearly 12 months - bought to replace an old Arai and for £140 I have been very pleased with it - it's anti-fog coating works well and I have found it seals well against rain (sounds like they have improved it over the last few years), the flip is great and it is so true that once you have a flip down dark 'sunglass strip' in a helmet you never want to be without. I ordered the matt black and it looks pretty cool .

Build quality seems OK - it's definitely not so plush as the Arai but then it is a few hundred cheaper. Recommend it!

 

[Mezza]

I just got my 2007 model Justissimo yesterday. I've only been out on the bike once in it and I like it so far. Was dry weather so I can't comment on waterproofing but overall quality seems great. Flip down inner visor was excellent in yesterday's strong sunlight. The chin guard is a bit close fitting (as dlevett said above).
The 2007 model can be fitted with a blue tooth kit ( a bit like the Nolan), but I think its quite expensive. It seems to be no noisier than my previous helmets, but I've never tried a Schuberth/Shoei/Aria so dunno how it compares.
Mines Matt Black and I think looks great - £130 new delivered, off ebay (I think he's had to put his prices up a bit since I bought mine though).

Rich

 

[Daithi]

Caberg is the job, tinted visor is very usful for blocking those rare bright skies
when it's in the halfway down position. Very comfy.