HELP Flat Battery AGAIN!!!

[sdcastle]

1200 GSA 2008.

First off, its my own fault, I have my Garmin sat-nav wired up to my external power socket under the seat. If I forget to unplug the cigarette lighter style connector (which has a power LED on it, which i think is causing the drain) I get a flat battery after a few days of not using the bike,

BUT........ isnt the power supposed to automatically switch off after 15 minutes. Checked just and there is still power to the socket (bike has been sat there for a week)

Any tosser tips (apart from take the connector out every time)

 

[cookie]

i wonder if the garmin is keeping the canbus alive after the ignition is switched off.

i don't think it should, but i can't see the gps draining a healthy battery so fast.

 

[skywalker]

There have been incidences of Garmin & Tom Tom cradles not allowing the ZFE unit (chassis ecu) to go into its normal sleep function after switching off the ignition.
Assuming the battery's not on its way out -the only logical step would be disconnect it from the power plug first, switch off the ignition, then replug it back into the socket after 5 mins to see if it powers back up again with the ignition off.

 

[sdcastle]

When i park up, e.g. at work, I disconnect the sat nav and take it in with me (not water proof or lockable). Then when i leave work i re-connect the garmin and it has power to it before i even turn on the ignition so dont think its that.

thanks anyway

New battery too!

 

[stolzy]

New battery too!

That's scuppered my theory.

 

[Morticia]

I have had the same problem. BMW wired my Garmin in for me....got home and took the unit off the cradle. Two days later the battery was flat.

Gomez took the bike back to BMW who can't work out why it still drains the battery when everything is off. They have now wired the Garmin direct to the battery with an in line fuse.

Hope this helps and is some comfort, its not just you...


Morticia

 

[sdcastle]

I have had the same problem. BMW wired my Garmin in for me....got home and took the unit off the cradle. Two days later the battery was flat.

Gomez took the bike back to BMW who can't work out why it still drains the battery when everything is off. They have now wired the Garmin direct to the battery with an in line fuse.

Hope this helps and is some comfort, its not just you...


Morticia

Might try that then , surely it cant be the little LED light on the connector plug, but then again?

Thanks all for your info....

 

[grasmith0149]

Don't know if this helps, but read some where on here (In the gps section I think) that if the battery is not fully charged on the GPS then it will keep drawing current causeing the canbus system to stay on and so drain the bike battery

 

[sdcastle]

They have now wired the Garmin direct to the battery with an in line fuse.

Hope this helps and is some comfort, its not just you...


Morticia

Was going to hard wire mine yesterday, after I had cut all the wires blast) I had a look at the garmin Ciggy connector and the sticker on it says Input 12V, Output 5V.

Is it safe to put 12v direct into the garmin or will it just charge quicker? Dont want to blow it up 2 weeks before a trip to Spain

PS What size fuse did they use, assuming its a small one 1A 2A?

 

[skywalker]

No the garmin plug steps the voltage down from 12volts to 5 volts so if you connect it other than through that plug you cut off you'll fry the sat nav! Going back to your power drain problem and assuming there's nothing connected to the socket when you leave the bike then it sounds very much like the ZFE unit at fault. Have seen a couple where the sockets still have a small voltage when everything should have shut down. Trip to the dealers I'm afraid

 

[Morticia]

Was going to hard wire mine yesterday, after I had cut all the wires blast) I had a look at the garmin Ciggy connector and the sticker on it says Input 12V, Output 5V.

Is it safe to put 12v direct into the garmin or will it just charge quicker? Dont want to blow it up 2 weeks before a trip to Spain

PS What size fuse did they use, assuming its a small one 1A 2A?

Hiya, If you give BMW at Long Eaton a call and speak to Ritchie, tell him you have been speaking to me re Garmin, I am sure he will be able to help you out.

Sorry I can't be more helpful, Gomez did the run to Long Eaton on the bike as I have am recovering from a knee injury.

Luci

 

[Grey Beard]

Hiya, If you give BMW at Long Eaton a call and speak to Ritchie, tell him you have been speaking to me re Garmin, I am sure he will be able to help you out.

Sorry I can't be more helpful, Gomez did the run to Long Eaton on the bike as I have am recovering from a knee injury.

Luci

I have just wired in a Zumo 660 to my 1200 GSA this evening. Used the CAN Bus socket behind the oil cooler. Tested it out and all seems fine. When I switch off the ignition, one minute later the Zumo detects a loss of charging voltage and asks if I want to shut it down or continue. If your system is OK, I guess it should do the same.

The auxiliary socket under the seat should act the same way as the one behind the oil cooler.

The in-line fuse supplied by Garmin for the Zumo 660 is 2A.

Grey Beard

 

[skywalker]

This isn't a 660 its different model.

 

[Morticia]

Mine is a little Garmin 220

 

[Gossy]

Mine is a little Garmin 220

2009 1200GS & 2011GSA both the same, the connection behind the oil cooler switches off after 5-8 minutes (for me powers the garmin), the power outlet under the seat same (for me powers the autocom).

Both switch the same, shouldnt matter what you have plugged/connected.

 

[Gossy]

Mine is a little Garmin 220

2009 1200GS & 2011GSA both the same, the connection behind the oil cooler switches off after 5-8 minutes (for me powers the garmin), the power outlet under the seat same (for me powers the autocom).

Both switch the same, shouldnt matter what you have plugged/connected unless earlier models are different.

Just posted twice - perhaps its a battery problem!!!!!

 

[Grey Beard]

This isn't a 660 its different model.

OK, I didn't realise that.

However, I think this is standard practice for Garmin GPS units when the power is switched off to them.

I also have an ageing Garmin III+ hand held mapping GPS and that warns when the power at the car ignition, e.g. is switched off.

It is something you could test to help whoever you talk to at Tech Support, etc.

Grey Beard

 

[Ross Dean]

OK, I didn't realise that.

However, I think this is standard practice for Garmin GPS units when the power is switched off to them.

My Zumo550 askes the 'continue on battery' question after a 10/20 seconds without power from the bike so the 660 and 550 are the same in this respect.

 

[skywalker]

550,660 all power down, but this guy's sat nav requires a fag lighter 12v supply but has a voltage reducer built into the actual plug so the actual voltage output to the GPS unit is 5volts.
If you,ve gone back out to the bike after its been left say 15mins and you plug in the sat nav before switching on then the sockets aren't shutting down (gps and aux socket ).
Just thought - if this is a 2010 bike & you've got the autocom connected into the aux socket wiring then this might be the problem. You'll have to fit the Autocom power relay so that will allow the system to shut down.

 

[Popell]

Its a shame that OP doesn't state model but at a guess it may be a quest, I have one too and tried to mess around with some mini voltage regulators to get the 5v from the headstock supply but lost interest before achieving satisfactory result. I wrapped the speaker/ciggy plug thing into a twin adaptor lead under the seat, never had a problem with draining battery.
Gps comes on with ignition and will switch off after a couple of minutes - when canbus powers down.
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