Hill Assist poor.
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Mine works fine, what am I doing wrong 
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This dinosaur still prefers manual gear change.
Having owned 1600’s since they were first launched and clocked up thousands of miles, the fellow who puts the berk into Berkshire, is talking out of his arse.
PS The hill start / brake is excellent on the 1600.
PS The hill start / brake is excellent on the 1600.
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I bet you read TFMMine works fine, what am I doing wrong
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It’s not very clear from your post, but…
If your mate had already engaged the hill start / brake but then (before the bike had started to power forward) he somehow panicked and grabbed the front brake, it will cancel the hill start very quickly. The bike may well roll backwards very fast, helped if he has the clutch pulled in ie. the bike has no forward drive and if there is a lot of weight (pillion, rider, luggage etc) and a steep hill.
It’s possibly user error.
Gutted for ya. Heal soon.
I'm always up for sharing what matters regardless of how people's social media brainwashed minds can't join the dots correctly anymore - and contrary to some of the silly comments posted earlier, I have never been against any electronic toys that can make things better
Sensible options
Heated grips and seats
ABS and Cruise control is a very useful
Traction control well implemented (as you'll find if you use Sport or S on an older GS, or Dynamic) works unobtrusively till grip vanishes and a bit of help then isn't a bad idea
Annoying unhelpful drivel
TFT screen of a hard to read digital speedo and less info that's now harder to read / find - and all too easily stolen, are just a nuisance we never needed
Keyless theft - is a pain, its an insecure inconvenience that drives up theft (which is why we musty have it), and is just an aid to time wasting, ruining journeys and buying missing keys
Shift irritant now - AKA the madness they call Shift assist, gets in the way and adds no value - if you can blip the throttle whilst modulating the throttle, get a bicycle
Hill start - if you can't control the bike using the front brake as you maneuver the bike or pulling away from the lights, get a bicycle
Interesting extras I can cope with it its there
MSC rev the bike up because the halfwit is smashing it down the box to quick, and a slipper clutch has never worked to stop you throwing it down the road
Forget the acronym, but Close the throttle when braking coz the rider has got things muddled and is revving it up whilst trying to stop
Newest stuff
Automatic transmission - I do not accept the BMW or KTM implementation - once we go electric its likely a clutch lever will (from a cost perspective ) vanish - although I'd like to see where off road control for competition bikes will land on that key point. However with a petrol engine'd bike with the possibility of it running funny because its: cold, on poor fuel, badly serviced, has a sudden technical issue, or the rider has done something unusual - will always be safer when the rider can quickly disconnect the drive and mange things - aka rev it up till they understand its going to make enough power they are less likely to drop it on the floor in that instant - and is why the cheaper simpler and brilliant idea of a fully normal bike that has almost all the benefits of ASA but leaves you with a clutch lever when you want it and or need it
And the last unnesassray cost that brings back only 1/3 of the safety we already had with round mirrors 20 years ago
On bikes with bar mounted mirrors, the trapezoid / rectangular disaster mirrors that are all the fashion on nearly everything means you can't see what we used to. On the current BMs KTMs or Triump's I always have a disconcerted feeling that I can't see what I need too, and now you have to make dramatic over-shoulder maneuvers frequently - often just as you need to be looking elsewhere as you already know someone else is trying to kill you up front.
KTM are plain mad, having the narrow part of the mirror glass out-most - whereas a very similar shape on a Triumph Explorer 1200 at least gets that basic bit the correct way around - with a narrow bit of glass showing your elbow, and a bigger weird shaped bit almost showing something behind you !
But when you hit traffic all these modern designs means the world is turned on its head - As I throw the bike side to side and wobble the bars from lock to lock to filter past door mirrors, any image you can to see is a continually distorted mess up - as you are looking through different shaped elements of the silly mirrors they wrongly fit on bikes today...
I can't believe so many biking journalists are such bad riders they never noticed the danger and flagged the need to go back years ago - helping get us back to safer riding !!!
When I ride my GS bikes with real round mirrors you see everything all the time - the mirror edge is always the same round shape I expect, no acute corners blocking the view, or confusing the image you want to see - whether upright or right over, on one lock or the other, round mirrors always work !!!
If I were in government I would outlaw bar mounted mirrors that weren't round - other shapes are far more dangerous - and my new blind spot mirrors are equally useless as they aren't round - far outweighing any benefit versus my older GS bikes with real mirrors
Sensible options
Heated grips and seats
ABS and Cruise control is a very useful
Traction control well implemented (as you'll find if you use Sport or S on an older GS, or Dynamic) works unobtrusively till grip vanishes and a bit of help then isn't a bad idea
Annoying unhelpful drivel
TFT screen of a hard to read digital speedo and less info that's now harder to read / find - and all too easily stolen, are just a nuisance we never needed
Keyless theft - is a pain, its an insecure inconvenience that drives up theft (which is why we musty have it), and is just an aid to time wasting, ruining journeys and buying missing keys
Shift irritant now - AKA the madness they call Shift assist, gets in the way and adds no value - if you can blip the throttle whilst modulating the throttle, get a bicycle
Hill start - if you can't control the bike using the front brake as you maneuver the bike or pulling away from the lights, get a bicycle
Interesting extras I can cope with it its there
MSC rev the bike up because the halfwit is smashing it down the box to quick, and a slipper clutch has never worked to stop you throwing it down the road
Forget the acronym, but Close the throttle when braking coz the rider has got things muddled and is revving it up whilst trying to stop
Newest stuff
Automatic transmission - I do not accept the BMW or KTM implementation - once we go electric its likely a clutch lever will (from a cost perspective ) vanish - although I'd like to see where off road control for competition bikes will land on that key point. However with a petrol engine'd bike with the possibility of it running funny because its: cold, on poor fuel, badly serviced, has a sudden technical issue, or the rider has done something unusual - will always be safer when the rider can quickly disconnect the drive and mange things - aka rev it up till they understand its going to make enough power they are less likely to drop it on the floor in that instant - and is why the cheaper simpler and brilliant idea of a fully normal bike that has almost all the benefits of ASA but leaves you with a clutch lever when you want it and or need it
And the last unnesassray cost that brings back only 1/3 of the safety we already had with round mirrors 20 years ago
On bikes with bar mounted mirrors, the trapezoid / rectangular disaster mirrors that are all the fashion on nearly everything means you can't see what we used to. On the current BMs KTMs or Triump's I always have a disconcerted feeling that I can't see what I need too, and now you have to make dramatic over-shoulder maneuvers frequently - often just as you need to be looking elsewhere as you already know someone else is trying to kill you up front.
KTM are plain mad, having the narrow part of the mirror glass out-most - whereas a very similar shape on a Triumph Explorer 1200 at least gets that basic bit the correct way around - with a narrow bit of glass showing your elbow, and a bigger weird shaped bit almost showing something behind you !
But when you hit traffic all these modern designs means the world is turned on its head - As I throw the bike side to side and wobble the bars from lock to lock to filter past door mirrors, any image you can to see is a continually distorted mess up - as you are looking through different shaped elements of the silly mirrors they wrongly fit on bikes today...
I can't believe so many biking journalists are such bad riders they never noticed the danger and flagged the need to go back years ago - helping get us back to safer riding !!!
When I ride my GS bikes with real round mirrors you see everything all the time - the mirror edge is always the same round shape I expect, no acute corners blocking the view, or confusing the image you want to see - whether upright or right over, on one lock or the other, round mirrors always work !!!
If I were in government I would outlaw bar mounted mirrors that weren't round - other shapes are far more dangerous - and my new blind spot mirrors are equally useless as they aren't round - far outweighing any benefit versus my older GS bikes with real mirrors
Could you repeat that please, I didn't really understand it.
What are you like, you old dinosaur living in the past who can’t read ..
What is colour ?
Would this be before you’d addressed illegal border entries, the parlous state of the NHS and well before you’d even had breakfast?
It’s an ocean scene.
Mr R1300GS is rubbish compared to my previous R1250RS. The RS was very smooth when pulling away with autohold. The R1300GS, I have given up, it is just too unpredicatble.
Had it checked and been told this is how the R1300GS is..
Had it checked and been told this is how the R1300GS is..
“The day we caught the train” scene
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