I am TRYING to sort a route (only 70 miles) and GOD DAMN MOTHERING SUNDAY basecamp is just driving me insane!!! I am literally having to add points 100 yards apart, all it wants to do is route some crazy ass way. I have tried motorcycling curvy and set some of my route (I am about 2 hours in so far and got about 40 miles). Trying to go around Lincoln on the A46 and it sends me through no matter what setting I have it on. I am now placing point at EVERY junction so that the bloody thing doesn't divert into some side roads for 20 miles just so I can travel a mile along a dual carriageway. I know everyone has had issues and there are loads of questions/answers but anybody with the technical knowhow can make a video so we can all watch and be able to use basecamp without slitting our throats !!!
holy crap--basecamp...AARRGGHH
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I hate basecamp, perhaps been spoilt by google maps, so generally I create a route there then convert it to a gpx file. Much less painful.
Basecamp sucks.
RBW.
Basecamp sucks.
RBW.
iand46
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Start with this http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/396216-Basecamp-and-Nav-5-My-way
or this
A somewhat expanded version written for a friend who was having similar problems
This is how I plot a route in Basecamp
The first thing to do obviously is to open Basecamp and ensure you have the latest maps on your computer and your device. I recommend downloading separately to computer first and then device.
The next thing, and this is important, is to set your routing and transfer options.
On windows based system
Click edit and then options in the box that opens and click activity profile. Select motorcycle from the drop down.
Just beneath that are 2 tabs General and routing. Click routing
I set mine to faster time
You can also select your avoidance preferences here and I suggest you do. I tick the boxes Unpaved roads, Cable cars and climbing paths and this works for me.
Now click the Device transfer Icon
Tick the top 2 boxes ( you can tick the 3rd one as well if you want) Doing this strips out all the shaping points and way points so you don't get bothered to death listening to the bloody thing on your ride but sends a spare route with them on just in case you need to re calculate at any time whilst out on your travels. (this solves one of Jims biggest problems)
On a Mac it is pretty much the same but done through basecamp preferences.
Now replicate the routing settings on your Nav 5 ( this is vital)
Ok Now we can get on with route planning !
You will see a Left hand pane on your screen at the top of which is Library and my collection.
Right click on my collection and select new list and then give it a name ( I have several one of which is called favourites and in there I keep all my oft used way points, you will see the benefit of this later) You can call this test route for now as it can be deleted at any time in the future.
Now find your house on the map ( the search function is shit so just do it by zooming and scrolling once you have located your abode right click on it and a box appears and you want to click new way point and a blue flag will appear. double click that and another box opens giving you the ability to name the way point and give it a symbol (I call it home and use the house picture)
You will see that this way point now appears in the bottom left panel (this panel has all the points and information pertaining to the list you have open in the top left hand pane)
For ease I now ask you to find somewhere you know and create a way point as before
Done that Good !
Next then is to click the new route icon (located on the top menu bar)and a box opens. Drag your start point (home) from the bottom left hand pane to the box at drag your start point here and then do it again for your end point ( Skipton Chef) to the end point bit.
Basecamp will now create a route for you based upon the settings you ascribed earlier in this case fastest ( it makes no difference as we are going to change the route )
The route the software creates will not be to your liking or desires FEAR NOT
You will see in the bottom left hand pane the route that has been created (Home to Skipton Chef ) click on it and the route will be highlighted pink on the map. Now starting near to home (About 1 inch ) press and hold the alt key and at the same time left click and drag the pink route to where you want it ( if it goes wrong click edit and undo ) continue to do this to your route working outwards to your destination until you have shaped it onto the roads you want ! Simples
To create a circular route from home to home do the same but add a way point somewhere along where you want to go for example a tea and scone shop at the half way point.
Double click your route and a box opens that you can drag that scone stop way point to the box and position it where you need it to be !
Simples
To transfer it to the Nav5 plug the thing into computer highlight the route (bottom left pane) and click the transfer to device option
When you unplug from PC and turn on Nav it should say new routes do you want to import Obviously you do so click yes
then they should be in your app on the device for use
so how do you make a route in google maps? I have made a little route (took me all of a couple of minutes!) but how do I convert to GPX?
iand46
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Right OP, start right at the beginning.
Are you using a Mac or a PC? It makes a little bit of a difference but not so much as to render the following simple guide (created from memory, so don't shoot me) totally useless:
Go to preferances or settings, or whatever it's called, and summon up the motorbike one.
Untick all the 'routing for imbeciles, I want windy roads, mate' choices, leaving it in a state where YOU (not a numpty) chose where the route will go. That may well mean unticking all the boxes.
Click on your start point.
Click on your end point.
A magenta line will now appear between the two points.
Are you happy with where it's taking you? Yes? Great, job done.
No? OK, no big problem.
Highlight the route.
Select the route shaping tool.
Click on the highlighted route and drag it at leisure to follow the roads YOU want it to take. There is a little bit of a knack to this but you'll crack it in no time.
Happy with your end result? Great. Job done.
Are you using a Mac or a PC? It makes a little bit of a difference but not so much as to render the following simple guide (created from memory, so don't shoot me) totally useless:
Go to preferances or settings, or whatever it's called, and summon up the motorbike one.
Untick all the 'routing for imbeciles, I want windy roads, mate' choices, leaving it in a state where YOU (not a numpty) chose where the route will go. That may well mean unticking all the boxes.
Click on your start point.
Click on your end point.
A magenta line will now appear between the two points.
Are you happy with where it's taking you? Yes? Great, job done.
No? OK, no big problem.
Highlight the route.
Select the route shaping tool.
Click on the highlighted route and drag it at leisure to follow the roads YOU want it to take. There is a little bit of a knack to this but you'll crack it in no time.
Happy with your end result? Great. Job done.
Just use TYRE
iand46
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Just use TYRE
This .
Apologies, I am mac based. Now it wants to split the route up as it contains too many points (not waypoints) as I have had to add some about 20 yards apart to stop it going down some side roads off a main road?? How do I combine them so it one god damn nice route I can just bleeding well ride on a route that I fluffing well want to go!!
tried it again and once downloaded to my 390 it says that the route has more than 29 via points and so splits it into 2 trips. I am obviously doing something major wrong as a trip to the chippy is more than 29 points!!
found this link which has cured the splitting routes gag
Today I was out with my new BMW R1200RT on a tour together with a friend of mine, Garmin_zumo_590LMwho had selected a route which covered a piece of the Netherlands and Belgium. My friend had downloaded this route, imported it in BaseCamp and transfered it onto his Garmin zumo 590. When being about 1,5 hour into the tour, he had stop and activate the “2nd part” of the tour. When we had a coffee break I asked him why he had split up the route in 2 parts, he complained that his zumo 590 did that will all routes having more than 29 waypoints, and that an expert on GPS units had told him that this is a fault in the zumo 590 software. I told him that this is a half truth, as you have different type of waypoints and they have limitations for use in 1 route;
one route can contain a maximum of 30 warning points / via points with warning. Routes with over 30 warning points will be split over different parts of the route. You can recognize a warning point when navigating: when approaching the via-/waypoint your Garmin will notify that you reached that point … something I do not like for intermediate via points to influence / overwrite the standard route Garmin would calculate to go from A to B.
between each warning point you can have 125 non warning via points. These non warning via points / shaping points do not trigger your Garmin to tell you that you arrived at it … your zumo just takes it as a shaping point in your route.
Changing via points from a warning type to a non warning one can easily be done from within BaseCamp. Select the route from the map by double-clicking it with your left mouse button, which opens a dialog box. In the Via-point list, right click one time on the via point you want to change to non warning type, and select “Do not alert”. If you want to change a whole bunch of via points to the “Do not alert” type, then you need to click on the first via point in order to select it, scroll down to the last via point in the list you want to change to non warning type, left mouse click on it while pressing your shift key in order to select the whole range of via points, right mouse click on one of the selected via points, and select “Do not alert” to change it to shaping points.
Today I was out with my new BMW R1200RT on a tour together with a friend of mine, Garmin_zumo_590LMwho had selected a route which covered a piece of the Netherlands and Belgium. My friend had downloaded this route, imported it in BaseCamp and transfered it onto his Garmin zumo 590. When being about 1,5 hour into the tour, he had stop and activate the “2nd part” of the tour. When we had a coffee break I asked him why he had split up the route in 2 parts, he complained that his zumo 590 did that will all routes having more than 29 waypoints, and that an expert on GPS units had told him that this is a fault in the zumo 590 software. I told him that this is a half truth, as you have different type of waypoints and they have limitations for use in 1 route;
one route can contain a maximum of 30 warning points / via points with warning. Routes with over 30 warning points will be split over different parts of the route. You can recognize a warning point when navigating: when approaching the via-/waypoint your Garmin will notify that you reached that point … something I do not like for intermediate via points to influence / overwrite the standard route Garmin would calculate to go from A to B.
between each warning point you can have 125 non warning via points. These non warning via points / shaping points do not trigger your Garmin to tell you that you arrived at it … your zumo just takes it as a shaping point in your route.
Changing via points from a warning type to a non warning one can easily be done from within BaseCamp. Select the route from the map by double-clicking it with your left mouse button, which opens a dialog box. In the Via-point list, right click one time on the via point you want to change to non warning type, and select “Do not alert”. If you want to change a whole bunch of via points to the “Do not alert” type, then you need to click on the first via point in order to select it, scroll down to the last via point in the list you want to change to non warning type, left mouse click on it while pressing your shift key in order to select the whole range of via points, right mouse click on one of the selected via points, and select “Do not alert” to change it to shaping points.
iand46
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These should help.
http://www8.garmin.com/learningcenter/training/basecamp/
http://www8.garmin.com/learningcenter/training/basecamp/
I had exactly the same problem as the OP after downloading updated maps. I never had a problem before that.
I think that the problem was that the setting for motorcycles will avoid main roads at all costs, even if set on shortest or fastest route, maybe it's because it's built by Americans who don't appear to have the congestion of rural roads that we have ?
Anyway, if your planning a custom route on your PC set the vehicle icon to car. This will allow you to plot the route exactly as you want it rather than it taking you miles out of your way at times.
Steve
I think that the problem was that the setting for motorcycles will avoid main roads at all costs, even if set on shortest or fastest route, maybe it's because it's built by Americans who don't appear to have the congestion of rural roads that we have ?
Anyway, if your planning a custom route on your PC set the vehicle icon to car. This will allow you to plot the route exactly as you want it rather than it taking you miles out of your way at times.
Steve
Ignore the total load of codswallop I posted last night (5th bottle of Hob Goblin)
I now believe, that when you upload updates they revert everything back to default ? That's what appears to have happened with mine.
Therefore, the motorcycling icon will automatically avoid "Interstates" (motorways) and "Major Highways"( Dual carriageways and A roads)
If you wish to plan routes without "Basecamp" taking you all over the shop, you will need to customise the settings to your choice.
I'll also have you know, I'ts very hard work being a total numpty.
Steve
I now believe, that when you upload updates they revert everything back to default ? That's what appears to have happened with mine.
Therefore, the motorcycling icon will automatically avoid "Interstates" (motorways) and "Major Highways"( Dual carriageways and A roads)
If you wish to plan routes without "Basecamp" taking you all over the shop, you will need to customise the settings to your choice.
I'll also have you know, I'ts very hard work being a total numpty.
Steve
iand46
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My motorcycling mode uses motorways & dual carriageways using fastest time setting. Even the curvy road option uses them for sections of the route.
try going into activity profile and set the defaults to what you want.
Tomcat
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Change the route preferences in the 'motorcycling' profile to 'Fastest' and all should be OK. I had this happen when I experimented with 'curvy' routes. For some reason the routing algorithm thinks town centres are full of curvy roads. You might also try turning off most (or even all) the avoidances so that you have full control over the roads that are used when planning a route.
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