How did they steal my GS

Something else to cut off with a battery grinder... but I guess the more grinding they have to do... the less likely they are to steal it.

A mate of mine used to work as a security consultant on big ships going through "pirate alley" off of Africa... his plan was always to make his ship look harder to board/capture than the other ones... maybe that should be our approach ?

Its another line of defence against 'scrotes'.

They would not realise about the standlock until they tied to push the bike off the stand.

On my RT, you are really on 'hands and knees to see it, and I know where it is.
 
Thanks all, it seems to me that the Cymarc thing is worth looking at, and BMW (and every other bike manufacturer) should fit them as standard.
 
I agree they're a waste of time and potentially cause more damage. Other locks and chains are far more effective. Trouble is, they cost money and if I've spent £25,000 on my shiny GS, why should I bother spending a couple of hundred securing it. And it takes ages to lock and unlock those chains. (Tongue firmly in cheek).

Don’t bother spending hundreds on chains and locks - use cheap ones.
If someone is carrying the gear to cut it off then they’ll cut it off regardless of the price of the lock.
Locks and chains deter the scrotes looking for easy pickings, cheap but robust locks and chains act as the same deterrent and put them off the same as expensive items to those types of thieves .
The last time I parked my bike in Soho square and left it overnight, about 4 weeks ago, as well as using a cheap U lock, I took my tyre valve inner core removal tool and let both tyres down :D

Went back the following evening with my small rechargeable compressor and within 5 minutes both tyres were fully inflated and I rode off into the sunset.
Sounds extreme, but it cost nothing.
It won’t stop the bike being lifted into a van, but it will definitely stop someone from riding it or trying to move it using another bike alongside :D

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Had my R1250GS taken off my drive after they cut the chain. Self recovered from a local lock up thanks to an air tag fitted to.
Did you even attempt any type of retribution for the c*nt that stole it??
I’m very old school and struggle with this aspect of bike crime more than anything else. Insurance and police are great, but we still have to deal with some stuff ourselves……otherwise this will just become more rampant than it already is.
Don’t get me wrong, my wife could probably take me in a “square go”, but I’d commission my nephew and his mates for some serious kicking if I found the guy.
This shit has to stop!!
Especially our shoulder shrugging acceptance?!
 
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Did you even attempt any type of retribution for the c*nt that stole it??
I’m very old school and struggle with this aspect of bike crime more than anything else. Insurance and police are great, but we still have to deal with some stuff ourselves……otherwise this will just become more rampant than it already is.
Don’t get me wrong, my wife could probably take me in a “square go”, but I’d commission my nephew and his mates for some serious kicking if I found the guy.
This shit has to stop!!
Especially our shoulder shrugging acceptance?!
I know someone who waited for them to come back, it wasn`t pretty. :D

Last bike I had stolen was a Katana 1100, the guy who did it was stabbed up pretty bad and it had fuck all to do with me.
 
On the subject of chains. What happens to the chains that have to be replaced by the crane operators? I think that all that tackle has to be replaced every so often. Bike chains are expensive. My local hardware shop charges €9 a miter for fairly heavy stuff. Not specifically bike chains. Just big heavy links. You have to bring your own angle grinder to cut it. Seriously. JJH
 
On the subject of chains. What happens to the chains that have to be replaced by the crane operators? I think that all that tackle has to be replaced every so often. Bike chains are expensive. My local hardware shop charges €9 a miter for fairly heavy stuff. Not specifically bike chains. Just big heavy links. You have to bring your own angle grinder to cut it. Seriously. JJH

Crane chain sets are used until they either break, or there’s wear on the links.
You wouldnt want ex crane chain though, dirty rusty chains. Bike chains will be made of a different material.
 
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BMW could very easily integrate a mechanism into the paralever/drive shaft on their shaft driven bikes that would make it pretty much impossible to wheel them away without putting the rear wheel on some kind of trolley. The additional manufacturing cost would be quite minimal too.

I guess they choose not to as every stolen bike often means an extra sale for them.
 
BMW could very easily integrate a mechanism into the paralever/drive shaft on their shaft driven bikes that would make it pretty much impossible to wheel them away without putting the rear wheel on some kind of trolley. The additional manufacturing cost would be quite minimal too.

I guess they choose not to as every stolen bike often means an extra sale for them.
And with BMW's use of buyers as beta testers would you want to be one of the first to buy a bike fitted with a system to lock up the shaft whilst riding it , I know it should be designed to only engage when parked BUT it is BMW we aee talking about
 
And with BMW's use of buyers as beta testers would you want to be one of the first to buy a bike fitted with a system to lock up the shaft whilst riding it , I know it should be designed to only engage when parked BUT it is BMW we aee talking about
I have the design, it 100% could NOT lock up while riding.
 
I have several chains but the one I use most was from Toolstation, a 2m job with 10mm hardened Quad links and not too expensive (about £35), designed to chain up gates, machinery etc.


Toolstation also sold the Squire SS50CS closed-shackle padlock much cheaper than other retailers and way below the £106 RRP at £60.




(I also have a bloody great big Pragmasis job with Abloy padlock that was very expensive.)
 
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A physical lock that prevented the stand retracting would make most bikes a bugger to steal. Mainstand ideally, sidestand, well, when the scrote caught it in a grid, it would be amusing to watch.

Cheap too, if designed in. Probably more expensive as an aftermarket fitment.

The later model T Max does this. Great idea
 
Did you even attempt any type of retribution for the c*nt that stole it??
I’m very old school and struggle with this aspect of bike crime more than anything else. Insurance and police are great, but we still have to deal with some stuff ourselves……otherwise this will just become more rampant than it already is.
Don’t get me wrong, my wife could probably take me in a “square go”, but I’d commission my nephew and his mates for some serious kicking if I found the guy.
This shit has to stop!!
Especially our shoulder shrugging acceptance?!

I and a few others know a GSer (no longer a member of the forum) who had his bike stolen. I knew him quite well, in fact I’ve been riding in Morocco with him.

He found out who’d stolen it and where the bike was stashed
He informed the police and for whatever reason they said they weren’t interested .. He was abroad at the time.
He flew back, went straight to the scrotes address, reclaimed his bike, and put the scrote in hospital.
Indeed, so severe were the scrotes injuries that our dear friend ended up in prison for a short stay.,

:D
 
Crane chain sets are used until they either break, or there’s wear on the links.
You wouldnt want ex crane chain though, dirty rusty chains. Bike chains will be made of a different material.
Different material? Harder to cut? Not to worried about a bit of rust. JJH
 
Different material? Harder to cut? Not to worried about a bit of rust. JJH

Generally cranes use grade 8 or 10 chains which I think are just basic steel. I suspect security chains will be harder and stainless metal.
 
I and a few others know a GSer (no longer a member of the forum) who had his bike stolen. I knew him quite well, in fact I’ve been riding in Morocco with him.

He found out who’d stolen it and where the bike was stashed
He informed the police and for whatever reason they said they weren’t interested .. He was abroad at the time.
He flew back, went straight to the scrotes address, reclaimed his bike, and put the scrote in hospital.
Indeed, so severe were the scrotes injuries that our dear friend ended up in prison for a short stay.,

:D
The moral of the story is the thief will think twice next time. Hopefully he’ll share his pleasant experience with other kindred spirits too. Feel bad for your friend and guessing thief avoided prison?! 🤔
 
Secure parking cannot be beaten.
After that, Roadlok, and park next to something more expensive!
 
Secure parking cannot be beaten.
After that, Roadlok, and park next to something more expensive!
Roadlok is only a disk lock at the end of the day (my GSA has one). A skateboard and the bike is gone, or a few big lads and two alloy scaffold tubes.

Chained to something fixed, plus out of common view in a secure location is best. Roadlok fitted is an easy bonus.

When touring I always chain my bike up, even in a secure underground car park, often to a biker mates awesome steed. The one time you don’t bother will be the day your bike gets taken.

My mantra is that five minutes of security faff is worth it to avoid the fucking long and miserable one way trip home whilst carrying your lid and leathers. An old Navy mate had his (then new) GSXR1000K5 stolen in seconds outside a cafe in Nice, he had to get a cheap flight home wearing his one piece leathers.
 
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