Had a couple of 'issues' between my daughters and a friend and I want to disable the use of MSN and messenger (and anything like it) on the 2 family computers.
How do I do this?
How do I do this?
How do I ban MSN and messenger?
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st247
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Be intrested if you can do this myself. Tried blocking them, but the kids found work arounds like ebuddy, theres penty of other sites that are similar including firewall bypassing software like hopster. Even if you managed to block all of these, there's still msn for your mobile or psp. So good luck, i'll keep a look in to see if anyone finds a decent answer.
mikepg
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The only way to do it is to reset the admin rights on the pc's so that only YOU can install programs. So, set the admin rights up first with password protection, and then the pc will be free of programs you don't want.
Not sure if you can disable MSN - you can 'block' folk on your daughters address book, but if they want to contact them back, you have no choice.
OR -
take the pc's away!
Not sure if you can disable MSN - you can 'block' folk on your daughters address book, but if they want to contact them back, you have no choice.
OR -
take the pc's away!
garfield
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this is the only workable answer unfortunately.....there are ways round these things.....
The easiest way I found from a quick search is...
There is an easy way to block MSN Messenger on just a few computers. Edit the hosts file in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc. Add the following two lines:
127.0.0.1 messenger.hotmail.com
127.0.0.1 gateway.messenger.hotmail.com
I just tested it on my computer and it prevents me from logging in to messenger. However, being local admins, they can edit that file if they know about it.
This will work with any websites you want to block on a per PC basis. It's great if you need to do it on just a few computers, but can be a pain if you need to do it on a lot of them.
There is an easy way to block MSN Messenger on just a few computers. Edit the hosts file in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc. Add the following two lines:
127.0.0.1 messenger.hotmail.com
127.0.0.1 gateway.messenger.hotmail.com
I just tested it on my computer and it prevents me from logging in to messenger. However, being local admins, they can edit that file if they know about it.
This will work with any websites you want to block on a per PC basis. It's great if you need to do it on just a few computers, but can be a pain if you need to do it on a lot of them.
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terayon
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if you have a firewall with parental control, just deny msn access to the net, and set the parental control
bigchris
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just a thought, but does anyone know if messenger operates on the same port number as http?
If not you could block any incoming connections that aren't port 80 (http) or 21 (ftp)?
If not you could block any incoming connections that aren't port 80 (http) or 21 (ftp)?
terayon
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there are at least 7 ports that you need to keep open for general usage
FTP 21
SSH 22
Telnet 23
SMTP 25
Web 80
Pop 3 110
IMAP 143
Plus others for other programs
FTP 21
SSH 22
Telnet 23
SMTP 25
Web 80
Pop 3 110
IMAP 143
Plus others for other programs
GSwadd
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Was watching something the other night about this and think they said MSN was written to jump ports if the one it wants to use is blocked.
Fanum
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Correct.
MSN and the other progs are designed for teenagers, who are also the most cunning and devious wily animals on the planet.....for every 'fix' you find, there will be ten websites with workarounds.
There are so many ways around it that it's really not worth attacking the 'issues' from that direction IMO....it will be easier and more worthwhile dealing with the causes of the issue your daughters have had/are having
Correct.
MSN and the other progs are designed for teenagers, who are also the most cunning and devious wily animals on the planet.....for every 'fix' you find, there will be ten websites with workarounds.
There are so many ways around it that it's really not worth attacking the 'issues' from that direction IMO....it will be easier and more worthwhile dealing with the causes of the issue your daughters have had/are having
Good advice - tried the very same some months ago but the issue has arisen again. When did my babies grow up?
Does this link do what you want? You can uninstall messenger.
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm
Another article here: http://www.protectiveparenting.com/web/html/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11
John.
Other handy stuff on this site as well
CliveS
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Another Way
You can also go to:
Start
Control Panel
Administrative tools
Services(local) and double click on messenger and disable it.
Fast and easy
Safe Riding
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You can also go to:
Start
Control Panel
Administrative tools
Services(local) and double click on messenger and disable it.
Fast and easy
Safe Riding
CliveS
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Similar name but not the same thing...
Note Although the name of the service is similar, Messenger Service in Windows XP is not related to instant messaging programs such as Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger. Disabling instant messaging programs is not necessary and not recommended. Disabling instant messaging programs will not prevent Messenger Service spam on your computer.
CliveS
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Another Way
Sorry Clive you were right. My brain is getting confused
Safe Riding
CliveS
Sorry Clive you were right. My brain is getting confused
Safe Riding
CliveS
I don't want to sound pious, or to be preaching, but have you tried good old fashioned 'trust'.
I found that by giving my son lots of freedom, that he had a great respect for the things that we told him we didn't want him to do.
It won't work with all kids, or all situations.
I'm sure that you've probably tried it and found reasons why this isn't practical - but I just thought I'd mention it on the off-chance that you hadn't tried it.
I guess you could also disable their login's to the PC's- and only re-enable them for homework assignments, disabling when their done. This is a bit draconian - but sometimes that's what's needed.
I found that by giving my son lots of freedom, that he had a great respect for the things that we told him we didn't want him to do.
It won't work with all kids, or all situations.
I'm sure that you've probably tried it and found reasons why this isn't practical - but I just thought I'd mention it on the off-chance that you hadn't tried it.
I guess you could also disable their login's to the PC's- and only re-enable them for homework assignments, disabling when their done. This is a bit draconian - but sometimes that's what's needed.
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MSN is the Devil's work...
**Hysterical laugh**Hahahahaha......tried that with my 15 year old (at the time) stepdaughter....and ended up with her in an anonymous hotel room with an 18 year old lad who thought she was 17....... ahhahahaa... The only way is to instil a good old fashion fear of the consequences in teenagers...and I think I did that quite adequately as far as that lad was concerned......*Repeat manic laughter*...
Modern parenting? Easy isn’t it…….
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The only way is to instil a good old fashion fear of the consequences in teenagers...
Modern parenting? Easy isn’t it…….
Yup - that's another approach, and I would have used it if I'd needed to.
Modern Parenting certainly isn't easy....... I always wanted twin girls, but then I remembered what I was like as a young-un, and that makes me glad that it was a single lad. Now old enough to look after himself (21). Still doesn't stop you worrying though.
BTW I love the signature / disclaimer.
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