How the chuffin heck do I get this out?

[Crapaud]

wouldnt recommend that, believe it or not there is a police publication that shows the correct "rivets" used by manufactures to put vin plates etc on, if you get a particulary interested vehicle theft plod they may well seize a vehicle to check its ID if the vin plate has been removed and re-rivited.
I know that when I was a vehicle crime investigator, there is not a hope in hell that you would have talked me out of taking the vehicle away if I had seen the VIN plate tampered with. The better looking and more restored the vehicle the more likley it is to be a ringer, and therefore the more interest to the old bill.

Fair point. I did wonder if it was legal to remove the VIN plate and rivet it back on. In the unlikely event that I do get questioned about it how do I show that it is not a ringer. I have the original V5 from when I bought the machine and receipts for everything I have done to it. PM if you would rather not put this sort of info on a public forum.
Cheers
Sid

 

[DrFarkoff]

On a BMW I would think its not a problem as the frame is WELL marked with the VIN on post 80 models anyway

 

[Northern Monkey]

Interesting! Mine is a 1979 - I had already removed the vin plate - but the chassis number is still stamped on the headstock. I doubt ill get pulled for pulling wheelies! !

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[Northern Monkey]

how do I show that it is not a ringer. I have the original V5 from when I bought the machine and receipts for everything I have done to it.
Sid

You dont have to prove anything - they have to prove what it is. If they can see the majority of the chassis digits on the headstock and it matches their info I would doybt they have grounds to delve deeper.

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[Kenny]

Wrong....just reasonable suspicion and a Police Officer can impound your vehicle as evidence for as long as it takes to check details properly. The stamped details on the frame must be ALL clear etc. I don't think many of the Queens finest will detect the rivets are different though


Us scousers know all the info re ringing vehicles

 

[bowser]

It would probably depend on the circumstances. We have a book that shows font of the stampings, spacing, type of plate, type of rivets etc etc.
Very often with powder coating the stamped number gets covered up or so filled in that you can read them, if you then look at the plate and its been re riveted, then you would want to look further.
Very often no suggestion that the rider or car owner are responsible but very often they have been done.
A common method often used to be to cut the entire bit of frame with the vin number on out of the honest frame and weld it into the dodgy frame grind back and powder coat to cover it up.
With all the docs etc that you have you probably wouldn't have a problem proving its yours and honest but, you still may get it seized off the road until that's been sorted.
Its generally safer to seize a vehicle and give it back to a legit owner that it is to explain how you stopped a vehicle got sus over it but then handed back and it turns out to be a ringer!! bit of dammed if you do and dammed if you don't, sort of path of least grief in the long run.
The only real anwser if you own a vehicle likely to get stopped then carry docs and proof with you.
I owned a LOS recovered for a while and always carried all my docs just in case.

 

[bowser]

Wrong....just reasonable suspicion and a Police Officer can impound your vehicle as evidence for as long as it takes to check details properly. The stamped details on the frame must be ALL clear etc. I don't think many of the Queens finest will detect the rivets are different though


Us scousers know all the info re ringing vehicles

been moving house and just found my copy of the book, you would be surprised, if they have sufficient interest to stop and look then they probably have sufficient interest to have the relevant information.