Hyperpro Steering Damper - Rip Off or Not

[Warlord]

Any opinions on the Hyperpro CSC Steering Dampers?

This year I decided to upgrade my 2017 Euro 4 R1200GS Adventure Suspension. In the end after consideration I chose to order a set of Ohlins TTX RT shocks and eliminate my Electronic Suspension Adjustment (ESA) as I can live without it. This Ohlins kit hasn't arrived yet and I'm still awaiting delivery.

During that upgrade process, I thought I'd also upgrade my stock BMW steering damper (as it's non adjustable and non serviceable and probably cheap tat), at the same time.

Looking around I figured I'd try a Hyperpro Steering Damper replacement, only because it was cheaper than Ohlins and Scott, plus it fitted as a direct replacement to the original ones location.

The main benefit I can see is the steering damper is ADJUSTABLE and SERVICEABLE. Unlike the original.

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[Nutty]

I’ve got the Hyperpro RSC on my 1290, and there is A LOT of adjustment, at 22 clicks. I’ve not found the sweet spot yet, due to being advised to start off at the incorrect end of the scale on another forum, but will be experimenting over the next few rides.

 

[Warlord]

However, this is the Rip-Off bit...

Hyperpro sell this CSC Steering damper for £ 202 plus £ 53 for the fitting kit to a BMW R1200... £ 255 total.

If you go on Aliexpress (Chinese Cheap Website) you can buy an identical looking steering damper with fixing kit for £18 including shipping

Even if you bought it just for the fixing kit, it's still way cheaper

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HYP...lgo_pvid=a80ace11-45cd-45d7-bb61-3e52ce2e8ff3

But having done a little bit of research it appears these cheap chinese ones fail quickly, something to do with the seals drying out? But nevertheless, HOW FECKING CHEAP inc Postage!!

That's just nuts. It looks identical and they even call it a Hyperpro Steering Damper?

Hyperpro must be turning in their Chapter 11's

 

[Warlord]

I’ve got the Hyperpro RSC on my 1290, and there is A LOT of adjustment, at 22 clicks. I’ve not found the sweet spot yet, due to being advised to start off at the incorrect end of the scale on another forum, but will be experimenting over the next few rides.

Yeah, they don't do the RSC version for the R1200

Probably because the RSC is geared more for sports and superbikes to maintain fast turn steering but avoid tank slappers

Whereas the CSC is geared more for Off-Roading and maintaining resistance through mud and sand at any steering angle etc.

I just thought it might add a bit of adjustability if I ever needed it in the future

 

[fredaroony]

No, they aren't a ripoff and comparing it to a Chinese copy is a joke.

 

[Bobbin-Man]

But having done a little bit of research it appears these cheap chinese ones fail quickly, something to do with the seals drying out? But nevertheless, HOW FECKING CHEAP inc Postage!!

Well that's a surprise

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

However, this is the Rip-Off bit...

Hyperpro sell this CSC Steering damper for £ 202 plus £ 53 for the fitting kit to a BMW R1200... £ 255 total.

If you go on Aliexpress (Chinese Cheap Website) you can buy an identical looking steering damper with fixing kit for £18 including shipping

Even if you bought it just for the fixing kit, it's still way cheaper

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HYP...lgo_pvid=a80ace11-45cd-45d7-bb61-3e52ce2e8ff3

But having done a little bit of research it appears these cheap chinese ones fail quickly, something to do with the seals drying out? But nevertheless, HOW FECKING CHEAP inc Postage!!

That's just nuts. It looks identical and they even call it a Hyperpro Steering Damper?

Hyperpro must be turning in their Chapter 11's

So, I spend £18 on something that doesn't work and goes in the bin.

I also spend £255 on something that works very well and lasts the lifetime of it's application.

Remind me again which is the rip off?

Why didn't you buy cheap Chinese shocks, I'm sure you could have bought a pair for £20.

Weirdo.

Andres

Edit: Quick, cancel your Öhlins order, look what I found (plenty of different fitments), bet they make them in the same factory for Öhlins too!

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[beaver]

I used a Chinese one on my 1200 Bandit.. it lasted all the time I had the bike (over 10 years) and worked very well indeed.

I do find the GS BMW one a bit poor, riding hard through the bends it sometimes feels like its going to go into a slapper.. Not happened yet, but if it were adjustable, I'd be turning it up!!..

 

[Arsey]

I used a Chinese one on my 1200 Bandit.. it lasted all the time I had the bike (over 10 years) and worked very well indeed.

I do find the GS BMW one a bit poor, riding hard through the bends it sometimes feels like its going to go into a slapper.. Not happened yet, but if it were adjustable, I'd be turning it up!!..

Why the fuck would anybody by cheap shite when it could kill em?

Some people really should be sectioned

 

[Warlord]

I used a Chinese one on my 1200 Bandit.. it lasted all the time I had the bike (over 10 years) and worked very well indeed.

I do find the GS BMW one a bit poor, riding hard through the bends it sometimes feels like its going to go into a slapper.. Not happened yet, but if it were adjustable, I'd be turning it up!!..

I almost bought a Chinese one for £18 delivered just to compare the two

 

[Warlord]

No, they aren't a ripoff and comparing it to a Chinese copy is a joke.

What, like Mudsling and Avantguard Fender Extenders (£160+) and cheap Chinese copies (£20+).

Or Touratech or Wunderlich camera mounts (£80+) and cheap Chinese copies (£20+).

There's loads of valid cheap Chinese copies around at the moment which work and do the job and 1 /10th of the European Equivalent.

So you think you have no Chinese made products in your life? I doubt it very much.

 

[Warlord]

Weirdo.

Andres

If you say so

I was merely noting HOW FECKIN CHEAP THESE THINGS ARE FROM CHINA.....

That is all

 

[Mr Bean]

What, like Mudsling and Avantguard Fender Extenders (£160+) and cheap Chinese copies (£20+).

Or Touratech or Wunderlich camera mounts (£80+) and cheap Chinese copies (£20+).

There's loads of valid cheap Chinese copies around at the moment which work and do the job and 1 /10th of the European Equivalent.

So you think you have no Chinese made products in your life? I doubt it very much.

I've not heard of anyone complain a genuine Machine Art Mudsling rubs on the swing arm, but quite a few of the Chinese knock-off's.

Having purchased a Guard Concept camera mount and a knock off I can confirm the genuine article is better finished (no sharp edges) and more importantly didn't require the screws (locating the camera block) to be additionally Loctited in place.

If one of the screws come loose again I'll bin it and buy another genuine item.

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

Cosmetics, I may try and save a few quid, but anything that I consider safety and stability, my wallet opens, and I have no regrets, my 9 lives are running out, I have been lucky, and hopefully it will stay that way.....

 

[Warlord]

Cosmetics, I may try and save a few quid, but anything that I consider safety and stability, my wallet opens, and I have no regrets, my 9 lives are running out, I have been lucky, and hopefully it will stay that way.....

£2,300 for Ohlins and Hyperpro kit

Or

£ 78 for same looking stuff.... from China

What could possibly go wrong? Hey?

 

[beaver]

Why the fuck would anybody by cheap shite when it could kill em?

Some people really should be sectioned

Its the same cheap shit you're buying at x £££... I know, I was using their Anodizing plant and saw the orders coming in from Sweden

you pay what you want.. if I get the opportunity to get something at cost price, I will... section yourself!!

 

[Warlord]

Its the same cheap shit your buying at x £££... I know, I was using their Anodizing plant and saw the orders coming in from Sweden

you pay what you want.. if I get the opportunity to get something at cost price, I will... section yourself!!

Half the stuff on a stock R1200 is probably made in China....

 

[beaver]

If you say so

I was merely noting HOW FECKIN CHEAP THESE THINGS ARE FROM CHINA.....

That is all

You right.. its amazing how cheap things are from China. Look at a good quality copy watch for instance.. say a Rolex sub Auto... bought in China at £20... same parts in all the same places. No one is saying its the same quality by any stretch, but the machining and time to make can't be too far off the mark. So use propper materials, better glass etc how much more can it cost?.. I'm sure at a sales price of £8K.... you can't tell me its anything like £4K to make
but no doubt all the experts will be on now telling me how shit China bits are... people who talk with experiance having never been to China

 

[Warlord]

You right.. its amazing how cheap things are from China. Look at a good quality copy watch for instance.. say a Rolex sub Auto... bought in China at £20... same parts in all the same places. No one is saying its the same quality by any stretch, but the machining and time to make can't be too far off the mark. So use propper materials, better glass etc how much more can it cost?.. I'm sure at a sales price of £8K.... you can't tell me its anything like £4K to make
but no doubt all the experts will be on now telling me how shit China bits are... people who talk with experiance having never been to China

Agreed.

Like that Hyperpro Steering Damper copy. The billet CNC machined alloy, tubing, sliders, everything is almost the same. It's 90% there, but still cost less than £18 to make?

Don't tell me that China can't design stuff either, they've landed on the moon !! What was that, a £20 knock-off Apollo 11

 

[leadfarmer]

Don't tell me that China can't design stuff either, they've landed on the moon !! What was that, a £20 knock-off Apollo 11

No it was a knock off Soyuz to be precise