I blame Ewan

[Mel]

Not typical at all thank you.

 

[Howard Millichap]

Not typical at all thank you.

I didn't say "everybody".

 

[Teddy]

Typical response to be given to Tiger owners. My brother owns and a Tiger and he's soo bad that I'm a c**t as well.

 

[Deleted account W]

To me, it's a bit like buying an oil head BMW ........BIZARRE!

Typical comment from your usual narrow minded Triumph owner


See I can make stupid sweeping statements too Howard

 

[markGS1198]

OriginalGSer, whoever you are, you're a snob. I've wanted a GS ever since they were first introduced and I've just reached a point in my life where I can afford to buy a second-hand machine. F*** you and your elitist views. I've ridden bikes since I was 17 and I'm 38 now. Mid-life crisis? Wake up and smell what you're shovelling. Take your stupid sweeping statements and cram them up your arse. Shame on the rest of you for encouraging this f***wit.

By the way, I work in a Triumph franchise and you'd have to pay me to ride a Tiger. That doesn't mean it's a bad bike, but it's not a GS.

 

[Alphason]

God!

Yes Howard?

 

[Jake]

I've watched some of the LWR DVD now, and my main impression is that the GS might not have been the best choice for this trip. What do you reckon?

Judging by the amount of time they spent picking the damn things up off the ground wouldn't something lighter and a bit more agile have been better? Maybe the 1000s of miles on tarmac made up for it, but the journey through Mongolia seemed pretty desperate.

I'm not trolling BTW, just a know-nothing newbie.

 

[Davel]

I think that the GS was probably the right bike - the problem was that they'd overloaded them!



-maybe they should have gone for the 1200

 

[Jake]

Was the 1200 available back then? Looking at the figures, why would anyone want an 1150 over a 1200 which is apparently 12% lighter and 15% more powerful?

 

[Mr K]

In case nobody noticed they rode 1150 Adventures, not 12's.

 

[Jake]

In case nobody noticed they rode 1150 Adventures, not 12's.

Maybe thats why Davel said "maybe they should have gone for the 1200"

 

[irishpan]

1150 v 1200

Was the 1200 available back then? Looking at the figures, why would anyone want an 1150 over a 1200 which is apparently 12% lighter and 15% more powerful?

I certainly agree that the 1200 is lighter and probably more powerful than the standard 1150 but surely Jake is missing the point? To carry that arguement to its logical conclusion, we should all buy R1s. The reasons why certain motorcycles appeal to different people sometimes has nothing to do with weight or performance or even common sense for that matter. It has all to do with aesthetics and people's personal perceptions. In other words, what turns you on.
I have test ridden a 1200 and it is a very nice bike with a smoother gearbox than the 1150. However, I bought an 1150 Adventure because it is a fine motorcycle which, IMHO, looks miles better than the 1200 which is nowhere near as brutal a machine nor as impressive on the road. To me the 1200 looks wimpish whereas the 1150 delivers the goods. All a matter of personal taste and that's why manufacturers sell so many different models.

 

[Davel]

I'm glad this thread was started, it made me start to watch the dvds again last night.

Looking at how those bikes were loaded I really don't think any bike could have coped better with those loads.

 

[Jake]

I certainly agree that the 1200 is lighter and probably more powerful than the standard 1150 but surely Jake is missing the point?

I may be. I don't know much about bikes at all.

However you seem to be saying that the 1200 is a better bike, but you'd opt for an 1150 because you prefer its looks. Surely THAT'S missing the point?

Other than the engine and the styling, are the two bikes very different underneath?

 

[Jake]

Looking at how those bikes were loaded I really don't think any bike could have coped better with those loads.

Would they have performed significantly better in the tougher conditions with a lighter load?

If they had carried less gear (and they admitted that they took way too much) would they have needed such big bikes in the first place?

 

[Davel]

You could, perhaps, argue that they should have loaded most of the gear on support vehicles to follow behind at a reasonable distance rather than meet up with them at the border crossings.

- or does this defeat the spirit of the adventure?

I have no experience of this but surely some of those roads/tracks were unsuitable for any bike carrying excess weight.

 

[Jake]

I have no experience of this but surely some of those roads/tracks were unsuitable for any bike carrying excess weight.

Dunno either. That's why I was asking!

 

[ScottyKM]

bored

at the risk of an internet kicking,,

i havent yet got or even paid a deposit for my 12 gs, but i cant wait, my local dealer (christian gewecker, in germany) gave me a test on a 12, fantastic, even compared to my gixer, just different, when i tried getting on a gsa i couldnt even get 1 toe on the floor!! had a transalp once, seemed about the same size as the 12.

oh i i seem to be waffling its because i truly have nothing better to do, sat in a control room in iraq, the closest i get to a bike is mcn once a week. but i am thinking of you all in the snow & rain of uk (its 25c here )

 

[HOGDAWG]

at the risk of an internet kicking,,


the closest i get to a bike is mcn once a week.

So, not very close then?

 

[TWIXIE]

Just a question!!!!!! will mr Boorman's bimble around the deserts make the 650 more popular than the 1200 or adv?????