I rode the WC for the first time yesterday

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Thoughts:

The bike was red.

The ergonomics of the bike feel much the same as the old bike, you could tell it was a 1200 family bike just by sitting on it.

I have small hands but was not troubled by the spacing between the grip and the bike's left hand controls, horn, indicator switch and whirly wheel.

The singe switch indicator is fine. I regularly ride bikes with both the 'traditional' BMW layout and the Japanese single switch, never encountering any difficulty switching between both.

The screen vibrates / flexes. I only really became conscious of this when I first set off. Tilting the screen upwards a bit reduced the flexing and / or I just ignored it. The screen's adjustment knob was easy to use on the move.

The bike's engine spins up well and its charicteristics favour short shifting up the gearbox.

The bike I rode was not fitted with a quickshifter but clutches gearshifts up the box under acceleration were smooth and easy. The acceleration / pick-up was certainly good but nothing extraordinary.

Yes, there was a clunk into first gear.

The bike favoured blips on the throttle to when changing down gears.

The brakes are good, the ABS not intrusive.

The soft suspension option is horrible, just as it is on other ESA equipped bikes I have ridden. Normal and hard are fine. I didn't muck about in the 'one up, two up, two up with luggage options'.

The cruise control works, just as it does on my 1600.

The mirrors, once I had adjusted them a touch, were fine.

The tyres (I have no idea what they were) were, according to the TPS at least, at the correct pressures and were as 'awesome' as one might expect. They were not squared off too badly. The bike did shimmy across road markings and get light at the front on hard acceleration, nothing untoward at all.

The analogue speedometer was easy to read.

The digital information screen was easy to read and it was similarly easy to flick between its options.

The top portion of the rev counter was obscured by the bottom edge of the Nav V's cradle.

The whirly wheel worked the Nav V's screen changes easily. The device's screen was in easy 'finger poking' range.

The exhaust note through the standard can was fine, not intrusive.

The seat is odd. BMW seem to have gone for what feels like a gel filled seat. I prefer a harder seat. Softer seats are fine but 'squish' on longer journeys, albeit 180 miles with a breakfast stop is not that far. Seats, like screens, bar positions, suspension settings, helmets, gloves and ultimately how hard and for how long you twist the throttle for are a personal thing anyway.

The bike was fitted with BMW's own Vario topbox; no panniers. I had forgotten how good the Vario feature is. It took a full face Arai, my gloves and Nav V quite hapilly when I made the (compulsory) stop at a Tesco carpark.

The engine's noise is bizarre, sounding as if the big end bearing is on the way out. You don't notice it on fast acceleration as the noise of the exhaust obscures it. At lower speeds and when cruising (neutral throttle) at higher speeds there is an obtrusive noise, despite wearing good earplugs. It certainly wasn't there on the vanilla 1200 engine versions of the bike that I clocked-up many miles on. I found it awful.

If I were looking for a 1200 GS type bike, I would certainly also try out the offerings from Ducatti, Triumph, KTM and Yamaha to see how they compared. I would also ride a late generation pre-water cooled 1200 GS, too. I might well also wait to see what the S1000F had to offer, assuming it does launch later this year or early next.

If I were looking for a 'Touring' type bike, I would try the 1600 and the 1200 RT, too. If nothing else it would be interesting to see if the RT's additional fairing deaden or increased the dreadful background engine 'big end failure' noise.

Was it, based on 180 miles, a Road to Damascuss experience? No.
 
I am not in the market for one and the chance to ride one had not presented itself before yesterday.

I will though maybe withdraw my previous impression that the bike looks a bit Star Wars, not least as you can't see it when you are sat on it. I certainly wouldn't add any bling to it. Poor old BMW have invested millions in making the bike lighter, only for bods to make it heavier again.
 
I picked up mine on Thursday and just about to go out for the first proper ride. I have to say I agree with nearly all of that, except the soft suspension which coming from a 2011 without ESA felt more familiar and OK, though I prefer the next setting up. I think the engine deserves more praise, as it is very lively and roll on is excellent and while I took a little time adjusting, my son was able to jump on and make progress as confidently and quickly as he had on a KTM 1190, though the WC does lack the ultimate top end of the KTM. However as an old plodder I don't think I will miss that.

I will know later today if the WC is better overall than my old 1200 for the nadgery roads I like though I can say now it better for motorways, shame I hardly use them. I think the suspension will be a step forward, not sure about the rest of it yet. It took me a week to gel with my first 1200 so I will wait and see.
 
Wapping, you will definitely be in trouble over this thread. :blast
You didn't use nearly enough - awesome, incredible, fabulous, stunning, fantastic words. In fact, you made it sound like it was just a bike which was a bit better than the previous version !. Strange that.
 
It's an ok bike, but hardly radical

That was my feeling on the 2 occasions I rode one
 
I made one purposeful use of the adjective 'awesome' and made a clear reference to a Tesco's car park. That should be sufficient.
 
Yep, the engine is noisy. Characterful....:P I wear earplugs.

The stock tyres are awfully noisy...so bad, in fact, you can modulate tyre noise by changing lean angle....when the bike is dead upright, the noise disappears.

My engine is loosening up nicely. It is really pulling hard in dynamic mode above 5000 RPM now.
 
Couldn't agree more on the engine noise....it's almost embarrassing...makes a dry clutch Ducati sound sensible . Having ridden a GSA WC shod in both Anakees and Conti trail attacks....the Anakees are incredibly noisy....will be going at the first opportunity
 
I liked the soft suspension setting ............... I preferred it above all the others :thumby:

All the bikes I've ridden have come on Michelins so not sure if the thumping feeling I've had when hitting cats eyes is a tyre or ESA thing?

BMW will no doubt call the big end rumbling 'character' I'd just be content that it's not the big end rumbling
 
I liked the previous generation GS but always felt the engine was a bit dull and accelerating on anything except hard suspension settings made it bounce up and down.
Maybe that's coming from Jap sports tourers but I'm too much of an old fart to be obsessed with speed. The WC GS feels a lot more alive with perhaps even better handling.
The seat on the old GS was horrible - uncomfortable, sloped forward too far with a nice hard bit of plastic right where your tailbone sits. The new seat, although not perfect, is much better, and I can happily ride 150 miles without pain - an air hawk takes care of longer days. As the new GS is 9Kg heavier than the previous model I don't think BMW have spent millions making it lighter, but millions getting water cooling in without adding too much extra weight.
I can't hear what you're hearing with the engine - sounds just fine to me but you must wear earplugs for every ride as it is noisy (but so was the last model).
The screen keeps the wind off well but design is crap - I've lost two circlips and now the screen itself is cracking from the top torx bolts up. It's just way too flimsy.
Engine feel is good but it is pretty lumpy in 1st or 2nd. 3rd gear up is fine. I find that short shifting helps to get below from the worst vibes (4K to 5K revs).

I've not owned an 1150GS but have ridden a couple extensively. I did own a TC GS and now have a 14 plate WC GS. To me it's not only better by far than the two previous incarnations, but its blend of features and riding quality are unsurpassed by any of the competition (and that will include the KTM Super Adventure ;)). It's the best bike I've owned or ridden.
 
When you talked about the 'pick-up' I wonder which engine mode you were running in most of the time, also please remember that you are coming from owning and riding a very powerful, very smooth, very quick and mechanically quiet super smooth 6 cylinder motor!

A very fair and accurate appraisal though..good report!
 
Having had a standard WC for 18 months and 19,500 miles of everyday commuting, weekend fun, two-up trips to the South of France etc - I can honestly say that I would never go back to the older 1200s, there is not thing that is better about the old bike.

Oh sorry, my bad :) there is one worse thing about the WC - the big hole in the rear wheel is not as shiny as the air/oil cooled 1200 :)
 
I have just come back from five hours in Wales on some of my favourite roads. My first proper trip on the WC.
The jury is out on whether the WC is better on the bumpiest broken tarmac, I suspect not. Everywhere else it was better than my old twin cam, and at higher speed, by a big margin. It really came into it's own in Dynamic over the Denbigh moors.

Tyres - I am on Conti Road Attack 2 - quiet and grippy.

What don't I like? Not a lot.

Best upgrade so far - ear plugs - it does make a racket, but the gear change is just fine.
 
Whilst i await del of my new bike I've brought myself a a little minta, a hexhead TC (not my first) and so after already owning 2 wassers I've put the TC back to back against the wc, the twin cam is a better buy, quality is better, it ticks over without the dreadful clonking tick tick sound, the gearbox is sublime, it handles as good, the bar/seating position i prefer over the wc, the air cooled traditional engine is really lovely .
The TC feels more stable on the front end under acceleration, its not as quick however i feel the TC has perfectly matched power for its chassis.

It don't have cruise and all the gizmos that we seemed to be brainwashed into buying, in reality we don't need em !

Quickshifter ! Well as of today I've fitted a quickshifter to my twin cam and its brill as per the shifter on my wc.

I like the bm traditional indicators however i could never get used to the cancel on the throttle side, my little hands could never reach it when I'm on the gas, no problem really, a couple of wires and swop the switches and bingo cancel on left horn on right.

Its as good as any wc now.
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Cancel on left - horn on right feels more natural .
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That says a lot Ding Dong

But than again JB the hexhead is a finished product, When will be able to say the same about the wc !! My hexhead has no warranty and neither am i bothered but i would be bothered if it were a wc .
 


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