If the worst happens how do you get home?

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I've just seen a youtube video about a guy who gets his bike nicked in Reims if that happens or even worse you're in a accident and the bike is too badly damaged to ride home who's responsibility is it to get you home?
It wouldn't be too bad from Reims but what if you were in Austria or Norway for instance it's something I've never thought about until I saw his video.
 
you look forward to a long ride home 'bitch' with an unlucky mate ........... ;)

or - isnt that what credit cards were invented for?
🤷‍♂️
 
Possibly not exactly what u are after …

Interesting one. I had my car nicked (from home) and the insurance cancelled my policy immediately leaving me transportless which I was amazed at.

My new bike broke down and had to be left in France in July, Roadside got me home - I booked the flights and they paid out three days later.

Barry
 
Scenario 1 - you bin the bike but you are unharmed, or bike stolen - bike insurance should cover costs
Scenario 2 - you and the bike are very poorly after an accident. Bike insurance for the bike; travel/medical for you whether with pulse or a pine box
Scenario 3 - bike poorly due to a breakdown. You now invoke the breakdown insurance. Fixes bike or sends it home in a van. You get a hire car, taxi, Easyjet flight as agreed
Scenario 4 - bike is fine but you are walking wounded. Again, claim on breakdown policy under "no rider available"
Scenario 5 - you have a stroke and cannot walk. Travel policy medivac. Breakdown policy gets bike home

So, make sure you have 3 separate policies. Bike, Travel and Breakdown cover. If you are in a group, share each others details.
 
Following an accident or theft, your fully comprehensive motor policy may well step in to provide you with a vehicle, probably a hire car.

That is what happened when I ‘flew’ my Pan European in SW France and buckled the front wheel. A French registered VW Golf Turbo Diesel was mine for two weeks in France, continuing my jaunt. This was handed back at Calais, where I borded the ferry. There was another hire car waiting for me at Dover, which I drove home to London and handed back on arrival.

I am confident the same would apply in say, Spain or Austria. Norway is perhaps a little different, as you’d probably not drive back.

I didn’t need to find out when I ruptured my Achilles in Holland. I just manned-up, rode my 1600 to the overnight ferry to Harwich and then into London in the rush hour. My only problem (other than it bloody hurting each time I put my right foot down) was my inability to drive my car away from the garage door…. cars don’t go if your right foot is no longer ‘connected’ to your right leg, as you can’t push the accelerator. Thank God for Polish workmen…. My consultant was, as best, ‘surprised’ as to how I got home.
 
Scenario 1 - you bin the bike but you are unharmed, or bike stolen - bike insurance should cover costs
Scenario 2 - you and the bike are very poorly after an accident. Bike insurance for the bike; travel/medical for you whether with pulse or a pine box
Scenario 3 - bike poorly due to a breakdown. You now invoke the breakdown insurance. Fixes bike or sends it home in a van. You get a hire car, taxi, Easyjet flight as agreed
Scenario 4 - bike is fine but you are walking wounded. Again, claim on breakdown policy under "no rider available"
Scenario 5 - you have a stroke and cannot walk. Travel policy medivac. Breakdown policy gets bike home

So, make sure you have 3 separate policies. Bike, Travel and Breakdown cover. If you are in a group, share each others details.
You’ve made me think !!!!!!
I’ve just checked, it looks like I’m not covered to get back on my travel insurance ( which I had thought I was) apparently I need the next level up. Another job to be done :blast
 
Strange as its only as we get older we care about these things, lol
 
You’ve made me think !!!!!!
I’ve just checked, it looks like I’m not covered to get back on my travel insurance ( which I had thought I was) apparently I need the next level up. Another job to be done :blast

check on your European recovery too.
 
Scenario 1 - you bin the bike but you are unharmed, or bike stolen - bike insurance should cover costs
Scenario 2 - you and the bike are very poorly after an accident. Bike insurance for the bike; travel/medical for you whether with pulse or a pine box
Scenario 3 - bike poorly due to a breakdown. You now invoke the breakdown insurance. Fixes bike or sends it home in a van. You get a hire car, taxi, Easyjet flight as agreed
Scenario 4 - bike is fine but you are walking wounded. Again, claim on breakdown policy under "no rider available"
Scenario 5 - you have a stroke and cannot walk. Travel policy medivac. Breakdown policy gets bike home

So, make sure you have 3 separate policies. Bike, Travel and Breakdown cover. If you are in a group, share each others details.
Bit in bold…. Read your breakdown policy carefully. Fix in reality probably means fixed at a bike shop and within a timescale and at a location that may not be to your liking. You also pay for said fix. Your bike may or may not be recovered home if the bike shop can’t fix it in a reasonable time, can’t get parts in reasonable time, or any other reason. Reasonable time is probably not your version of reasonable either. If the cost of recovery exceeds the value of bike they will pay you out for the bike rather than recover it for you. And then if they do recover it, it’s still broken. Make sure you understand your cover - as with all insurance.
 
Worth a try

Greenflag as an exmaple say;

  1. SECTION 3. LOSS OF USE OF THE INSURED VEHICLE
    Your policy provides cover only for the sections of cover as shown on your Schedule/Insurance Plan If at any time during your trip, you cannot use the insured vehicle because of a breakdown within the geographical limits and we reasonably believe that the insured vehicle will be out of use for more than eight hours; or
    If the insured vehicle is stolen within the geographical limits and not recovered within eight hours, we will organise and pay for the reasonable costs of one of the following subject to availability:
  2. • Taking all insured persons and your luggage to your intended destination, within the geographical limits, and then returning you to the insured vehicle after it has been repaired.
  • or
  • Accommodation, including one daily meal (but not alcoholic drinks), for all insured persons while the insured vehicle is repaired, up to a maximum of £45 per person per day, or £1,000 altogether.
    or

  • Up to a total of £1,000 towards the cost of hiring another vehicle while the insured vehicle remains unserviceable.
 
When my RT broke down in Italy my Motorrad Breakdown cover offered me a number of options:-
1) Bike to be repaired by the nearest BMW dealer and they would pit me up in a 4* hotel of my choice in the area for up to 5 nights waiting for the bike to be fixed.
2) A BMW car/bike for me to carry on with my holiday and keep until my bike was fixed. If that meant returning home they would either return my bike to me in the UK and pick up their vehicle or if I preferred let me take their vehicle back to them and I could ride my bike home with them paying any additional fuel/ferry/accommodation costs accordingly.
3) A combination of the above of my choosing.

That's one of the reasons I continue to keep renewing the extended warranty with breakdown cover on my 11 year old TC GSA.
 
Following an incident in Spain in 2009 we were left stranded in the small town of Torreblanca.
My insurance company said "we don't provide hire/courtesy cars in Spain", this left us a bit stranded.

During a phone call to @Ming of this parish he said "do you want me to come and pick you up?"
As it would be a 2,500 mile round trip for him I thought he was joking. He phoned me back a few hours later and said he and @Greg Masters were going to 'pop down' after work on Friday.... it truly was an International Rescue.

Between Greg and Matt they drove the 1,250 miles each way to return us and what we managed to salvage from the wreckage back home :bow

Two weeks after getting back home I had a phone call from my insurers, "hello Mr G, we are pleased to tell you we can arrange a hire car for you in Spain" :blast
 
Bit in bold…. Read your breakdown policy carefully. Fix in reality probably means fixed at a bike shop and within a timescale and at a location that may not be to your liking. You also pay for said fix. Your bike may or may not be recovered home if the bike shop can’t fix it in a reasonable time, can’t get parts in reasonable time, or any other reason. Reasonable time is probably not your version of reasonable either. If the cost of recovery exceeds the value of bike they will pay you out for the bike rather than recover it for you. And then if they do recover it, it’s still broken. Make sure you understand your cover - as with all insurance.

I am very familiar with the terms of my insurance policies including their limitations.

No breakdown policy will pay for repairs, although the bike might have a separate warranty that does so. No breakdown policy can guarantee the availability of spares or workshop time whether in Kettering or Kosovo. Have you seem the lead times for booking a service in the BMW network in the UK? I'd be quite happy to have a cheque for my bike from LV Britannia and a flight home from Spain. They'd probably give me more for it than I was offered by some dealers recently.
 
Bit in bold…. Read your breakdown policy carefully. Fix in reality probably means fixed at a bike shop and within a timescale and at a location that may not be to your liking. You also pay for said fix. Your bike may or may not be recovered home if the bike shop can’t fix it in a reasonable time, can’t get parts in reasonable time, or any other reason. Reasonable time is probably not your version of reasonable either. If the cost of recovery exceeds the value of bike they will pay you out for the bike rather than recover it for you. And then if they do recover it, it’s still broken. Make sure you understand your cover - as with all insurance.

As a simple rule of thumb, the recovery company may well always take the vehicle to the nearest authorised dealership for the vehicle in question. For example, they’ll most often take a BMW motorcycle to a BMW dealership, rather than one that is exclusively dealing with Yamaha or Honda. Why? It makes sense for them to do so, based (if nothing more) on the logic that if the vehicle needs a part for a BMW motorcycle, a BMW dealership should be able to source it faster than a Yamaha dealership.

An exception might be for something like a puncture, in theory repairable in any garage capable of removing a motorcycle wheel and repairing a hole. But again, they’ll always try to use a garage dedicated to that make of vehicle. Why? In some counties, tyres to be fitted have to be type approved for that model. Again, logic dictates that a recovery to a BMW dealership, will deal with the problem faster for a BMW vehicle than, say, a Kawasaki.

Of course “Not to your liking” can mean assorted things. You are always free to sort things out yourself and not call on the services of your roadside recovery / assistance insurer at all. But, don’t then expect them to assist you, if and / or when your plan goes awry. There is somewhere a thread where a bikermate tried this cunning approach and, in a word or two, fecked it up. Likewise, spare parts for a vehicle do not grow on trees. If your bike needs a new shaft drive, most dealerships will not have one sitting around in their store cupboard. A sparkplug or two, might well be different. I needed a new tyre for my 1600, following a puncture from hell. There were none in France and only a few in Germany. I though had one in my garage at home in London. The insurer agreed to pay for a friend to go to my house, pick up the tyre and have it couriered to the French dealership, if required. In the end, the tyre came from I think Leipzig to Dijon, as it was quicker than DHL / my friend from London. It still took a few days, made longer as the puncture was late on Saturday afternoon, whilst French dealerships are shut on Sunday and until lunchtime on Mondays. I last saw my bike vanishing away on Saturday at about 19:00 on a low loader. The haulage company kept the bike until Monday lunchtime, then delivered it to BMW, Dijon. Over the intervening period, my insurer worked hard to find a tyre, miles away in Germany. They paid for two nights in a hotel and a taxi for me to Dijon to pick the bike up again, when the tyre was fitted. I had to pay for the tyre and its fitment but not the cost to have it shipped from Germany. Good luck, finding a type specific tyre in Liepzig, when you don’t speak German and are sitting somewhere around Dijon.

Of course no sensible insurer is going to spend two thousand, recovering a vehicle worth say, £800; to use an extreme example. They’ll still get you home but subject to the £800 limitation and / or subject to the terms and limitations contained in the policy.
 
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In he event of an accident-sometimes the 3rd party’s insurers (if at fault) will arrange a car to get you home
Seen it happen in the past

BMW’s own breakdown and personal accident & travel cover used to be great, however they stopped the travel cover about 20 years ago, sadly
 
Simple, join the que and claim asylum. 😜
 
Following an accident or theft, your fully comprehensive motor policy may well step in to provide you with a vehicle, probably a hire car.

That is what happened when I ‘flew’ my Pan European in SW France and buckled the front wheel. A French registered VW Golf Turbo Diesel was mine for two weeks in France, continuing my jaunt. This was handed back at Calais, where I borded the ferry. There was another hire car waiting for me at Dover, which I drove home to London and handed back on arrival.

I am confident the same would apply in say, Spain or Austria. Norway is perhaps a little different, as you’d probably not drive back.

I didn’t need to find out when I ruptured my Achilles in Holland. I just manned-up, rode my 1600 to the overnight ferry to Harwich and then into London in the rush hour. My only problem (other than it bloody hurting each time I put my right foot down) was my inability to drive my car away from the garage door…. cars don’t go if your right foot is no longer ‘connected’ to your right leg, as you can’t push the accelerator. Thank God for Polish workmen…. My consultant was, as best, ‘surprised’ as to how I got home.
We need a new thread starting, “Wapping’ Pan European Flight” to enlighten us about that jaunt in more detail.
 


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