Il Diva? No can Copy!!!!

[(RIP) Geriatric Germ]

Bought Il Diva for SWMBO, as usual tried to copy it for her car using Nero. DISASTER not only knackered Nero slowed computer right down, tried Restoring, still the same, Uninstalled Nero, reinstalled Nero all seems well now.
What little Divil is in Il Diva as the original CD won't play now and it's all my fault, she says

 

[cookie]

copy protection of some kind. bastards.

 

[Detox]

Pirating copyright material is theft.

So your complaining that you can't steal something?

 

[ianf]

Is it a SONY recording?

If so...

You've been hit with dishonestly installed software see here

 

[cookie]

Pirating copyright material is theft.

So your complaining that you can't steal something?

it's a bastard isn't it?

actually, i thought the main thrust of the complaint was that it buggered up his pc. probably with some out of compact disc spec malware put there by the caring people at the record company.

 

[Bateman]

Pirating copyright material is theft.

So your complaining that you can't steal something?

I was under the impression that you can make a backup copy for personal use and it is completely.

Interesting thread here.

There seems to be plenty of software available on the net that will let you bypass the copyright, though I can't open any of the sites at work so can't provide a link.

 

[longdog]

FWIW, I use these products for all my back-ups. They allow you to copy copywright protected discs, purely for my own use as back-up you understand. All I can say is "it does exactly what it says on the tin"

 

[cookie]

I was under the impression that you can make a backup copy for personal use and it is completely.

er, legal?

not in this country AFAIK

 

[Bateman]

may be of interest, especially the last paragraph

"The EUCD, or Copyright and Related Rights Regulations 2003, amends the Copyright Designs and Patents Act of 1988 and is the EU's attempt to update copyright protection to the digital age and combat software piracy.

Indivuals who make a copy of a copyrighted DVD, CD or music file, whether for back-up or for use on another device such as an MP3 player, are committing a crime.

Even if this is for personal use they theoretically face up to two years in jail or an unlimited fine, and possible civil action from copyright holders.

It will also be illegal for anyone to break anti-copying technologies and publish their findings, as in the 'DVD Jon' case, in which Norwegian encryption cracker Jon Lech Johanson was prosecuted for distributing DVD encryption-cracking software."

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

i certainly wouldn't recommend the use of DVD decrypter - oh no - i need to test it a bit more ......

 

[xpi0t0s]

Well, I'm not so sure you're right Bateman...

Reference: http://www.jenkins-ip.com/patlaw/cdpa1.htm
which is titled the 1988 CDPA, but appears to _include_ the modifications listed in http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2003/20032498.htm

Copies for private use are fairly clearly defined as not permitted by 16(1)(a) and 16(2) and the fact that there isn't an exclusion for it, but equally it's not listed under section 107 Offences. There also doesn't appear to be a catch-all offence, so private copying would seem to be something you can't do but it isn't an offence if you do do it.

The two year penalty - presumably the one in 107 (4A)(b) - specifically relates to public broadcasting without a licence.

It's possible you're correct, but could you point out the sections that specifically define the penalty for private copying?

 

[xpi0t0s]

"Pirating copyright material is theft."

Actually, it isn't. Theft is where I take something of yours and in doing so deprive you of it. Copying something of yours does not deprive you of your copy. It could be considered a loss of a sale, but sales are not a right, and lots of things constitute loss of sales without being criminal; for example, if I buy a R1200GS then I've arguably deprived Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki and others of a sale. Anyone arguing that copyright infringement constitutes a lost sale would have to prove that (a) the sale would have taken place had the copy not been done and (b) that the copy being done means that the sale is permanently delayed (which definitely isn't true for me - I've downloaded stuff, then liked it and bought it. Equally I've bought stuff that turned out to be crap and couldn't take it back, and nobody considers me to have been stolen from.)

 

[cookie]

Even if this is for personal use they theoretically face up to two years in jail or an unlimited fine, and possible civil action from copyright holders.

funny that the BPI and the RIAA compare downloading music with nicking the cd from a shop in their ads. the penalty looks more like armed robbery.

 

[Iain Hogg]

Interesting news article here