I'm connecting the battery directly to the starter motor and if doesn't turn over

To clarify - it was running earlier in the week. Now it's just clicking not turning over. When I apply current directly - all I get is the loud click.
 
To clarify - it was running earlier in the week. Now it's just clicking not turning over. When I apply current directly - all I get is the loud click.

With ignition off.
Put it in gear. rock the back wheel back and forth.
put it in neutral.
With Ignition on - hit starter button.
... if it starts, you need to clean the commutator and probably need new brushes.
Good Luck.
 
Could be the magnets becoming unglued happend to me on a valeo? starter motorworks supplied a replacement Bosch with a adaptor which worked grand seemd to turn over slower though. JJH
 
With ignition off.
Put it in gear. rock the back wheel back and forth.
put it in neutral.
With Ignition on - hit starter button.
... if it starts, you need to clean the commutator and probably need new brushes.
Good Luck.

Thanks for this. I've already taken the starter motor out though. Picture to follow.
 
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Okay. Inside of starter motor. It's very dirty in there. And that central gear won't turn by hand. Is that normal?
 
Could be the magnets becoming unglued happend to me on a valeo? starter motorworks supplied a replacement Bosch with a adaptor which worked grand seemd to turn over slower though. JJH
Looks like that is what happened. It was working fine on Saturday...
 
Thanks Phil - really good tip. He sells the magnet can separately for £35

Looks like you have the Valio starter there. They are easy to pull apart and swap bits from one to another 'as you probably know by now'. I believe the Peugeot 106 and probably the Citroen C3 & C2 have the same one, but with a different head, that can be swapped for the one you have 'assuming yours is ok'.

Valios fitted to cars also tend to have a metal spacer/fixing piece keeping the magnets in place.


For information: The Valio turns the motor over at a higher rpm than the Bosh. The Bosh is also heavier than the Valio, and more expensive.


Val.
 
Valeo starter

If you get one from a car make sure that it's 2002 or newer. That's when Valeo started to secure their magnets properly. Also, and importantly, make sure that you get a magnet can which'll spin your engine in the correct direction! There's a label on the magnet can with an arrow pointing in the direction of spin. For example, airhead starters spin one way and oilheads the other. It all depends on whether the starter points forwards or backwards when fitted on the bike. Confusingly, both directions have the same part number so check that the arrow on the can matches yours.
 


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