Is ABS a dealbreaker on this one?

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Hi,

Waddya reckon?

Friend of my sister is selling:

2007(57) R1200GS Adventure
Good condition - slight corrosion on some small fasteners
15,000 miles
Three piece Vario luggage
Additional fog lights
Heated grips

No ABS...

£7,000

Good deal?

Thanks!

Pete
 
If the 2007 had servo brakes I would aviod the ABS - cant remember what year they changed it :friday
 
I can't understand why anyone would want ABS on two wheels anyway. We ride bikes, you should be able to feel the brakes and road without it.
 
They did not have the servos on the 2007 bikes.

I like this bike - it's exactly what I'm looking for, apart from the lack of ABS.

I think that with the ABS (ii) could offer a safety net against losing the front in an "oh sh**" moment (especially with a heavily laden bike and telelever front...) but this bike strikes me as a very good deal, so I'm very tempted to go for it.

Do you think it's a steal or priced correctly?
 
Hmmmm... Yeah, thought as much. Thanks!

Might go for it anyway. At least it's an honest bike with less to go wrong with it.
 
I paid less than that for my 07 ( feb 08 reg) with ABS from a dealer in Dec 10 with 14 k miles. A lot over priced I think.
 
Unfortunately, I'm old.

I can't understand why anyone would want ABS on two wheels anyway. We ride bikes, you should be able to feel the brakes and road without it.

I also got there without the aid of ABS. However, I am not a "Riding God" , with reactions quicker than a cat. Others posting on the lack of ABS suggest that they are. They may well be the 0.01% of the population who just possibly can outperform an ABS system, but me, I would not buy a bike without it since it became available.
I wish to live to be even older.
I do not disagree that one can stop near enough as quickly without ABS, in dry, controlled conditions.
However, in an emergency, on wet asphalt, in total panic when someone has just pulled out of a sideroad into your path, you do not have to remember to modulate your brake force, or worry about locking up the rear and lowsiding. Just give the brakes all they can take.
This may well be the difference between an smash and a near miss.

Myke
 
MY view, over priced without ABS.

You may not feel you need ABS and that's fine.

However, it will always be easier to sell a bike that has it.
 
Seems an honest bike at a sensible price but always worth knocking him down a bit:thumb

The arguments for ABS are long as you can see from the responses and to be honest, it shouldn't affect the value. I specced mine from new with no ABS and the dealer couldn't believe it saying guff like "it will affect the resale" "you have to have it for safety" :blagblah:blagblah.

a: I have no intention of selling it and b: the brakes are very powerful and provide good feel and I've not had one instance in 70,000 miles where I would have benefited from ABS.:thumb
 
I owned two GSs without ABS and didn't have a problem selling the second (first was nicked). I came off a couple of times during that period and one of them might have been avoided with ABS - will never know.

However my latest bike has ABS and I wouldnt go back. Got no interest in this 'you shouldn't need it' bollox - it works really well and has no impact on the feel of the bike so why not :nenau
 
. Got no interest in this 'you shouldn't need it' bollox - it works really well and has no impact on the feel of the bike so why not :nenau

And on the other side of the fence, I have no interest in the "you must have it" bollox :D

Personal choice and each side of the argument has it's merits:thumb
 
The arguments for ABS are long as you can see from the responses and to be honest, it shouldn't affect the value. I specced mine from new with no ABS and the dealer couldn't believe it saying guff like "it will affect the resale" "you have to have it for safety" :blagblah:blagblah.

When looking to possibly px my GS several dealers told me it must have ABS or they could not shift it on in the trade.

Can't see it making a huge difference to value, but may limit the amount of places that will take it in px at a later date, can't see that being a deal breaker, especially as you can normally sell a bike privately pretty easily if it is well priced (i.e. at the low price typically offered for px)

I also don't buy into it being essential as of the 30 odd bikes I have owned only 3 have had ABS and to date it has never saved me, now many will argue one day it might - then again not riding a motorcycle may also save me from having an accident and I could ask for my electric to be cut off to stop me from burning myself on the oven or injuring myself with power tools.

I also think many people auto-compensate, I am certainly more gung-ho with the throttle since having traction control, and possibly leave less margin for error with braking due to having ABS.
 
I wouldn't have a bike without ABS.:rob It's saved my bacon twice.:beerjug:
 
I know that the Europeans are going to make it mandatory, but if you are relying on Traction control and ABS wouldn't it be better to look at your riding style:aidan
 
i've had 3 bikes with ABS and they have never saved me from anything. however, the later versions of the BMW ABS have no drawbacks i can detect bar the additional cost and the slight possibility it might go wrong, but if you're worried about either of those things you should probably stay off bikes entirely.

i still have 3 other bikes without ABS, a fact that doesn't worry me in the slightest.
 


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