Is it possible to slipstream the three CN7 cd's onto 1 DVD?

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Does anyone know how to streamline the 3 City Navigator 7 upgrade cd's onto 1 DVD for an unattended installation. I don't know why Garmin chose to release CN7 on 3 CD's -it takes 4 disc swaps to load it.

Including the two CN5 cd's and the three CN7 cd's, it takes me 8 disc swaps to install City Navigator! I've tried dragging and dropping the three CN7 cd's files into a common folder but couldn't get it working - it keeps asking me to insert the next CD plus I think there are hidden files missing. Any ideas?
 
Alchohol 120% is a drive emulator which allows you to mount a disc image onto one or more virtual CD or DVD drives. In theory you could mount all three discs together on F: G: and H: and see what the program does.

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Mike
 
Cheers Mike :beer: - i'll see if Alcohol will let me rip an exact copy of the CN7 cd's onto a DVD. When I dragged and dropped using Windows, there were hidden Garmin files I couldn't copy across. If Alcohol does let me rip the discs, I should have a 1 disk solution, making those pesky disc swaps a thing of the past.
 
Another option....

You could create a ISO image of each of the disks, and then mount them using a daemon tools or similar to seperate drives or swap them. Anyhows this would require no disk swapping.
 
mrTickle said:
I don't know why Garmin chose to release CN7 on 3 CD's...
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Simply because they assumed (quite rightly) that not everyone who would be purchasing this map update would have a computer with a DVD reader in it. Folks who are buying a cartography update to support a GPSR that might be 3 or 4 years old may not have the most up to date computer, either. Besides, you only have to do the map installation once in your life, so it's not a big issue to swap the three CD's.

If you look at how Garmin distributes updates for the newer GPSRs (e.g. the 2620, 2660, 27xx series), you will find that they distribute those updates on DVD. Their thinking, which I think is pretty sharp, is that folks who are buying the newer GPSRs probably already have newer computers with DVD support.

Michael
 
mikeh501 said:
Another option....

You could create a ISO image of each of the disks, and then mount them using a daemon tools or similar to seperate drives or swap them. Anyhows this would require no disk swapping.
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daemon tools / Alchohol 120% = the same thing. Good suggestion, I had forgotten about that one.

Mike
 
PanEuropean said:
Simply because they assumed (quite rightly) that not everyone who would be purchasing this map update would have a computer with a DVD reader in it. Folks who are buying a cartography update to support a GPSR that might be 3 or 4 years old may not have the most up to date computer, either. Besides, you only have to do the map installation once in your life, so it's not a big issue to swap the three CD's.

If you look at how Garmin distributes updates for the newer GPSRs (e.g. the 2620, 2660, 27xx series), you will find that they distribute those updates on DVD. Their thinking, which I think is pretty sharp, is that folks who are buying the newer GPSRs probably already have newer computers with DVD support.

Michael
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I have 5 PC's in my house and I have loaded the Garmin software on all of them ( why? because I wanted too ). It was a complete PIA and out of all my non O/S software, the Garmin stuff took the longest to load. Why they didn't offer a DVD release for the CN 7 upgrade is beyond me. Saying folks didn't have a DVD drive in their PC's a few months prior to the 2620 DVD release is a complete nonsense - what changed - how come everyone suddenly upgraded from CD to DVD drives in that short period of time? Garmin may as well of just released CN7 on 5.1/4 " floppies by that reasoning. Just like Garmin won't let you purchase one of their GPS units ( sorry I'm on a roll here ) without having the mapping software included even if you already own one of their units - they're out of touch with reality. When it's cheaper to purchase both an Atlantic SPIII brand new and an imported Americas SP2610 than a single new Atlantic 2610 in Europe ( yes it still works great - no problems :D ), what are folks to think... I think Garmin's silly 8 disk swapping routine sucks ( but not as much as their rip off cartography ) and I bet their next CN upgrade has the option of coming on a single DVD disc. In fact why don't they release the CN7 upgrade on DVD right now if they offer it to their 2620 customers?
 
mrTickle said:
Saying folks didn't have a DVD drive in their PC's a few months prior to the 2620 DVD release is a complete nonsense - what changed - how come everyone suddenly upgraded from CD to DVD drives in that short period of time?
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Wow - sorry to gore your ox. :D

I think you failed to read what I wrote the first time. It went like this: People who are buying new, top of the line (= expensive) GPSRs probably have DVD readers in their computers. People who are buying upgrades to map software for older GPSRs - software that has to support units going all the way back to the SP III - may not have DVD players.

I will be visiting Garmin in Olathe early next week. I will tell them about the great inconvenience and frustration this caused you, and suggest that they forget about the thousands of SP III, 176, and 276 users out there, and instead think about this one guy who has 5 computers in his house.

Michael
 
Well Said...

PanEuropean said:
Wow - sorry to gore your ox. :D

I think you failed to read what I wrote the first time. It went like this: People who are buying new, top of the line (= expensive) GPSRs probably have DVD readers in their computers. People who are buying upgrades to map software for older GPSRs - software that has to support units going all the way back to the SP III - may not have DVD players.

I will be visiting Garmin in Olathe early next week. I will tell them about the great inconvenience and frustration this caused you, and suggest that they forget about the thousands of SP III, 176, and 276 users out there, and instead think about this one guy who has 5 computers in his house.

Michael
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Well said Pan.... may suggest Mr Tickle... a short trip back into your box? :mcgun
 
i have a 2610 & 3 dvd drives & i think it's daft to have 8 discs that i have to swap about.

maybe it's because the software looks & feels like something from 1997 that garmin feels they are being sympathetic by only releasing it on those new fangled cd things.
 
cookie said:
...maybe it's because the software looks & feels like something from 1997 that garmin feels they are being sympathetic by only releasing it on those new fangled cd things.
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No, I think it's far simpler than that: DVD readers can also read CDs, but CD readers can't read DVDs. Because the CDs only need to be handled once - when initially installed - it is much simpler for everyone if the updates for cartography that is downloaded to the GPSR in segments is shipped on CD.

Cartography updates for GPSRs that store the entire map database within the GPSR, such as the 2620, 2660, 2720 and others are shipped on DVD, most likely for the reasons I have already explained above.

If you have a 2610 and are handling 8 different discs, then you may have become a bit confused with "those new fangled cd things", as you put it. The recent CN Europe 7 update consisted of 3 CDs only. Try installing the update first thing in the morning, before you get distracted by anything else ( :beer: ), and you might find the task easier to accomplish.

Michael
 
mrTickle said:
I have 5 PC's in my house and I have loaded the Garmin software on all of them ( why? because I wanted too ). It was a complete PIA and out of all my non O/S software, the Garmin stuff took the longest to load. Why they didn't offer a DVD release for the CN 7 upgrade is beyond me. Saying folks didn't have a DVD drive in their PC's a few months prior to the 2620 DVD release is a complete nonsense - what changed - how come everyone suddenly upgraded from CD to DVD drives in that short period of time? Garmin may as well of just released CN7 on 5.1/4 " floppies by that reasoning. Just like Garmin won't let you purchase one of their GPS units ( sorry I'm on a roll here ) without having the mapping software included even if you already own one of their units - they're out of touch with reality. When it's cheaper to purchase both an Atlantic SPIII brand new and an imported Americas SP2610 than a single new Atlantic 2610 in Europe ( yes it still works great - no problems :D ), what are folks to think... I think Garmin's silly 8 disk swapping routine sucks ( but not as much as their rip off cartography ) and I bet their next CN upgrade has the option of coming on a single DVD disc. In fact why don't they release the CN7 upgrade on DVD right now if they offer it to their 2620 customers?
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Blimey - lay off the caffeine and chill a bit :D
 
judge said:
Got it in one P-E - he's a fekkin drunk who should try sobering up a bit!! :hapybnce: :hapybnce: :hapybnce: :hapybnce: :hapybnce:
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...dammit I'm rumbelled... :D :D :D. You try loading CN onto 5 PC's at once - it drives you potty :beer: :beer: . I would very much appreciate if Pan could have a word with Garmin on my behalf. You never know, my little rant on here may just make them release their next CN update on a single DVD... :thumb
 
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