It would appear the 710/701i/760i is more than a facelift looking at the specs.

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It would appear the 710/701i/760i is more than a facelift looking at the specs.
I have a conversation to. W had with Garmin tomorrow over the continued shutdown issues in our 700i and 750i.
Absolutely will not tolerate having the SD card with OS maps in them. Instantly causes the shutdown.
700i was more stable over the weekend where my 750i shutdown 9 times in a 48 miles, 3hr greenlane ride.
 
@PitaNaanRoti
I would love to know ( link please) what info you have from Garmin-
I called last week to ask if the 710 was capable of receiving Glonass (as well as GPS and Galilleo) but they said no...:blast
So... that is a step backwards for me. The older 700 has all three.
I then asked if the processor had been updated but they did not know then waffled on about proprietary information... :augie
So, the only benefits I can see are longer battery life (unlikely to be an issue on a powered mount), an increase from 16 to 32 GB internal memory and a USB-C data/charging port and you'll have to fork out another £600ish just for that...ermm...well... nope.
IMHO , these are 'intermediate cash cow' units as G. have not released anything in the 7 series since the 700 came out in ...Aug 2020... :augie 5 years... the gaps are getting longer... and from what you say the issues appear to have returned...
and from what I understand, the units with the InReach facility were not fitted with the Glonass receiver as there was some conflict and you could not have both hence the tri-band 700 without InReach.
 
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I didn’t move this or make a new thread!
Was a reply to the main Garmin one.
Just look at the Garmin website. Specs show a number of differences but who knows.
I’m at the point of sending both ours back and going with either the DMD2 kit or just the Mini2 and an XT. Our XT’s have been faultless. Whack a locking mount on the enduro and that’s that.
 
There were no links in the post.

It was moved from the Garmin is shite, get it off your chest, sub-section. It stands on its own as a comment about the facelift (or otherwise) of the model.

Richard

:beerjug:
 
Wapping said:
There were no links in the post.

It was moved from the Garmin is shite, get it off your chest, sub-section. It stands on its own as a comment about the facelift (or otherwise) of the model.

Richard

:beerjug:
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It was in reply to the series of comments regarding the 700/700i/750i so was relevant there.
 
Is the 710/701i/760i more than a facelift? Yes or no?

What was the result of your conversation with Garmin?

It’ll no doubt interest some owners here, rather than being lost in rants from bods as to how shite or otherwise their Garmin device is.
 
@PitaNaanRoti anaanroti
Have actually tried a complete hard reset?
Press and hold the power button until the ...red or green light comes on
(I forgot which comes first) then RAPIDLY double click the power button as soon as that light comes on then wait for screen instructions?
It will all user data!
 
Treb said:
@PitaNaanRoti anaanroti
Have actually tried a complete hard reset?
Press and hold the power button until the ...red or green light comes on
(I forgot which comes first) then RAPIDLY double click the power button as soon as that light comes on then wait for screen instructions?
It will all user data!
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Hard reset isn’t going to do anything when it’s a hardware/firmware/software conflict issue.
Garmin know there is an ongoing problem since they released 19.1.
Long discussions last week - this is the last time they get any logs, files, etc from us.
They fix the problem and make it function like it used to or they both go back. Along with 2x of their powered mounts and 2x SD maps.
If they ship 710/760’s “to see if that fixes the issues” like they did with the 750i - so be it. But that’ll get one chance.
One thing that anyone using one should know.
It won’t run properly with an SD card in. It simply can’t cope. It also won’t run properly if auto track is enabled.
You can start a recording. Stop a recording. But if you have it set to automatically do this - it’ll crash. Repeatedly. Don’t have “auto pause” enabled either. Part of the same issue.

The 710/760 is using the same casing as the 700/750. So externally they are identical. Uses the same mounts and powered mount so expect the pin marking issue to happen even with the “upgraded “ dampers.
 
Strange and getting stranger!
I do not know if you have the plain triband '700'
On mine:
Tracking is enabled and set to save daily in GPX and FIT formats and works fine for me.
Auto pause- I do not use - but I do use the auto start- works fine
All my maps are on a micro SD card- a mixture of OSM and others, some topographic- all work fine - I ensure I 'disable' all those I do not need.
I use a SanDisk 32GB class 10 A1 card (currently with approx. 26GB of mapping)
No charging pin issues anymore.
BTW I'm on software version 16.70, display version 85.07 and GPS software 2.9

So far, it does what I need it to along with it's 'boss' the 276Cx watching over it!
You could try downgrading the software version to one which worked but that can entail a 'brick' risk so be aware.
 
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Well so far the 710i and 760i Garmin sent us are behaving.
Set up identical to the 700/750 they are working fine.
Would seem something other than the USB-C charge port has been changed.
 
Treb said:
@PitaNaanRoti
I would love to know ( link please) what info you have from Garmin-
I called last week to ask if the 710 was capable of receiving Glonass (as well as GPS and Galilleo) but they said no...:blast
So... that is a step backwards for me. The older 700 has all three.
I then asked if the processor had been updated but they did not know then waffled on about proprietary information... :augie
So, the only benefits I can see are longer battery life (unlikely to be an issue on a powered mount), an increase from 16 to 32 GB internal memory and a USB-C data/charging port and you'll have to fork out another £600ish just for that...ermm...well... nope.
IMHO , these are 'intermediate cash cow' units as G. have not released anything in the 7 series since the 700 came out in ...Aug 2020... :augie 5 years... the gaps are getting longer... and from what you say the issues appear to have returned...
and from what I understand, the units with the InReach facility were not fitted with the Glonass receiver as there was some conflict and you could not have both hence the tri-band 700 without InReach.
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Treb said:
Strange and getting stranger!
I do not know if you have the plain triband '700'
On mine:
Tracking is enabled and set to save daily in GPX and FIT formats and works fine for me.
Auto pause- I do not use - but I do use the auto start- works fine
All my maps are on a micro SD card- a mixture of OSM and others, some topographic- all work fine - I ensure I 'disable' all those I do not need.
I use a SanDisk 32GB class 10 A1 card (currently with approx. 26GB of mapping)
No charging pin issues anymore.
BTW I'm on software version 16.70, display version 85.07 and GPS software 2.9

So far, it does what I need it to along with it's 'boss' the 276Cx watching over it!
You could try downgrading the software version to one which worked but that can entail a 'brick' risk so be aware.
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Same here. Triband 700 model, I do use auto track but not auto pause, and I do have OS maps on an sd card.
 
I have a Garmin Camper 760. I’ve had it around 6-7 years and it has performed great. No problem uploading routes from Basecamp, it has traffic updates, warnings of roadworks, broken down traffic etc and seems like a good tool to use. I’ve no idea what glonas etc are and obviously don’t need them.
 
CN maps used to come pre installed with, I think, the 700i.

Seems not to be the case with the 710i
 
Berin said:
Belay that. The i models do ship with preloaded CN maps in the UK.
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Definitely has CN maps. They’ve changed how the map management is done too. CN shows up as always however their version of OS has its own tab at the top you need to go into.
Next is to try the actual OS as card in them and see what that does.
 
Treb said:
O.M.G.
A bit of edukachion
Glonass
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Yup, as I said. I don’t need it. I’ve been travelling around many countries since the early 1970s and have managed so far without Russian help. It does seem that many are desperate to use many different forms of sat nav. Garmin has worked for me for around 12-15 years both for the bike and more lately the motorhome. Basecamp is very easy to use and transfers the routes to whichever sat nav I want it to. It’s also very easy to share routes with other Garmin users. Why I would want change I have no idea.
 
I'll wager you own a smartphone Glenn- why? was the older one no good or is your new one not faster, with more options etc etc?

You don't need greater accuracy and faster calculations?...- ok- fair enough, understood if perplexed!

It is not something you use but options your satnav can use (which can be enabled/disabled in your Garmin's settings) should yours have
a) the ability to receive other satellite systems and
b) the option to enable them (GPS, Galileo, Glonass) and
c) if you can enable/disable WAAS too.

Resulting in faster calculations and greater accuracy- what's not to like? I do understand that not all Garmin units have these facilities.
Right, I'll get my coat :101
 
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