It's Not Just The Bm's That Have Brake Problems

I've got some great examples of Triumph build quality if you want to hear them Howard, but I somehow doubt you would listen :D

PS You are very fortunate that your posts are tolerated on here. If you went on a Triumph site and slagged off Triumphs in the same way as you slag off the BM's, you would find yourself barred from posting pretty damn pronto. They seem to lack a sense of humour for some strange reason. :)
 
Howard Millichap said:
Anti BMW. Me? Noooooooooooo!
I just think they're an over priced pile of badly designed, poorly built crap. Based on my experiences through 51000 miles with an R100GS. Great bike WHEN it was working.

Oh. My Tiger brakes are still fine after 33500 miles. No warping but they do get a bit spongy when the crap builds up in the NISSIN calipers. Some brake cleaner sorts it out.
Those that have warped get replaced under warranty.

I have to ask the question ... I just can't hold it in any longer ... what the f@@k are you doing here then?...
 
Ste@SSB said:
I have to ask the question ... I just can't hold it in any longer ... what the f@@k are you doing here then?...

Because I still offer advice to airhead owners when their bike goes wrong. As they inevitably do.
 
Bob Southgate said:
If you went on a Triumph site and slagged off Triumphs in the same way as you slag off the BM's, you would find yourself barred from posting pretty damn pronto. They seem to lack a sense of humour for some strange reason. :)

How can you slag off something that's nearly (yes, nearly) perfect?
Seriously though. There are plenty of posts moaning about things like wind noise and buffetting and other niggles. I don't know of anyone getting banned. The thing is though, I don't know of any Triumphs needing a new gearbox every 25000 miles, or any of the other problems that this forum is full of because they are generally more reliable.
 
Howard Millichap said:
A nice example of BMW build quality.

A nice example of? :confused:

If as the original post (of yours) suggests, the 'Adventure braided hoses' that caused the problem were fitted after the bike left the factory.........

How can that be a BMW 'build quality' issue?

Lord knows BMW's aren't perfect but you don't do your case much good by using such examples in support!
 
Howard Millichap said:
How can you slag off something that's nearly (yes, nearly) perfect?
Seriously though. There are plenty of posts moaning about things like wind noise and buffetting and other niggles. I don't know of anyone getting banned. The thing is though, I don't know of any Triumphs needing a new gearbox every 25000 miles, or any of the other problems that this forum is full of because they are generally more reliable.

Triumphs nearly perfect????? Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!! You don't know of any Triumphs needing new gearboxes?? I guess you haven't looked very hard Howard. Just go over to www.T595.net and do a search on 4th gear and you will see plenty reports of 4th gear exploding on the 595 Daytona and Speed triples. Or my first Sprint ST needing new pistons, cylinder liners and valve guides by the time it had 18000 miles on the clock because it had started to burn oil big time. Not forgetting the honourable mention of the head gasket blowing at 12000 miles, or the fracture in the exhaust headers in less than a year from new.

A bit of advice Howard. When slagging off BMW's, make sure you look around properly at the Triumph forums with your eyes wide open so that you can see that they are no better or worse than BMW with regards to issues. In fact, when it comes to warranty issues, the Triumph warranty department really need sorting out.Their customer service is appalling. Telling a customer that he should have cleaned his bike by following their instructions in the manual when the problem was paint peeling off a number of components for example. The claim was rejected of course. They see paint related problems as corrosion and don't cover that in the warranty.
 
Howard Millichap said:
Because I still offer advice to airhead owners when their bike goes wrong. As they inevitably do.

Now why would anyone want advice from someone who rebuilt his gearbox time and time again in his own garage and still didn't get it right?? :D
 
Howard, Don't get into an argument with Bob, you achieve nothing in besting a fool.
I agree with you and the facts on this board alone support your conclusions, Iv'e tried a 955 Tiger and was impressed, the brakes even worked every time.


:clap :clap :clap
 
Jimb said:
Howard, Don't get into an argument with Bob, you achieve nothing in besting a fool.

Talking of fools Jim, do you remember that time when you made a right twat of yourself when you gobbed off about the Met Police firearms officers?? :D :D
 
As a previous grabbed wrong end of the stick poster (apologies to bob) In my opinion the tiger is the best bike for me but I wont say anything bad about the Gs family cause I considered a 1200 & Ive rode an 1150GSA/1150GS & 1200 & really like them but I prefered the engine of the tiger it was a good deal so I did it.

Also bob gave me a very non biased opinion of the tiger on a thread I placed on triumphrat.

I dont think that there is a perfect bike its just down to you perception of how you feel & ride the bike & if you enjoy it who cares what you ride. :)

cheers Malc
 
Glad the Tiger works for you Malc, that's the most important thing. It does have a lovely engine too. Its the best feature of the bike in my opinion. :)
 
Bob Southgate said:
Now why would anyone want advice from someone who rebuilt his gearbox time and time again in his own garage and still didn't get it right?? :D

You're mis-quoting me there. I didn't do the rebuilding. BMW dealers did. I just put the 'box back in the bike afterwards time and time again. It's an inherently weak design.
 
But didn't your tag line at one time say that you had rebuilt it time and time again in your garage Howard? Or are you now trying a bit of a damage limitation exercise?
 
Triumph Daytona brakes

- just reading the tread.
i had a brand new daytona before I changed to an 1150gs- I had terrible problems with brakes from day one. Triumph factory needed strong letters to get them to perform- but I was never happy with that machine. Dealer-Lagunas- admitted They were all crap and Id been spoilt by my R1 which has excellent brakes.
 
Bob seems to have got out of the the wrong side of the thread this morning.

Who opened your box, bob.

You're normally so quiet. ;)
 
motomartin said:
Bob seems to have got out of the the wrong side of the thread this morning.

Who opened your box, bob.

You're normally so quiet. ;)

Another post from the man who posts so much yet contributes so little here ;) ;)
 
Confucious also say secretary not part of the furniture until she is screwed on the desk :D
 
Found a problem while working on my 1100 this afternoon which makes me believe Howard may have a point about corrosion.
My left-hand rear indicate stopped working so I stripped the unit down for a look. There was a small amount of green corrosion on the exterior of the bulb's metal base which was preventing good contact.
I've never changed this bulb, (I've only had the bike 3 years), so unless the last owner has changed it, the fault must lie squarely on BMW's doorstep, I'm devastated, the bike's only just turned 12 years old and I'm starting to experience these type of problems.
I'm going to spend next week on the 'phone to Triumph to try and discover where they buy the bulbs for the Tigers, that should prevent it ever happening again.
 


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