It's Quite Nice South of the River Too Mini Meander.

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I thought I'd champion the South side of the river for a change.

I have concentrated on what was basically a large armaments factory based in Woolwich. When you see photos posted of the City and surrounding areas you must bare in mind the were mostly built for show to impress the public hence the fancy architecture. The buildings I am going to show you were of an area of high security and were only seen by the workforce or distinguished guests, hidden behind a 20' high perimeter wall from the general public. A lot of their work was experimental, Top Secret and vital to military campaigns around the world from the 17th century until 1994 when the military left. The site was huge, all of Thamesmead and Belmarsh prison were built within it's grounds, it had artillery ranges, tank and vehicle testing grounds all out of sight of anyone who didn't work there. My Father in law worked in the drawing office and my Grandma worked making munitions during WWII.

The Royal Arsenal at Woolwich.

I rode my trusty Raleigh cycle that I bought secondhand about 40 years ago along the Thames Path starting at Erith. The path in this are now largely what is classified as Brown Field sites now but were previously large industrial sites using many docks and wharfs to unload raw materials and export finished goods by the Liquid Highway.

Where I join the path these old jetties that are slowly being consumed by the weather and tides, after winter storms a bit more disappears. I believe they were for loading casting sand onto ships that was quarried about a mile inland. The sand is special and is only found in a few places, it was used to make casting moulds as it binds and holds together under the rigours of metal casting. In the distance you can make out the Queen Elizabeth II bridge part of the Dartford River Crossing.

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There is one still major manufacturer along this section of river. ADM is the leading processor of rapeseed in Europe either for food stuff for human or animal consumption or for Biofuels. It also processes other grain such a Soya. Ships are unloaded and of their cargo 24 hrs a day. Some of the grain is milled/processed and reloaded onto other ships and transported to our other parts of the world, the Dutch boat in the picture was being loaded. There is also a bottling plant on site so if you cook with oil there's a good chance the oil came from here, it is the largest combinable crop processing plant in the country.

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Another large industry that wasn't far from this factory was British Insulated Callender's Cables.BICC made cables and were instrumental in the formation of the National Grid supplying large high tension cables. The factory were taken over by Pirrelli a few years ago and the area was dominated by a large tower emblazoned with a huge illuminated Pirrelli sign that could be seen for miles. All that's left now is the loading dock/gantry. Large ships would dock and depending on what the cable was for would either wind below deck or on load cable laying ships with huge drums mounted on the bow. The cable was continuous, how? I hear you ask, the whole factory was a huge conveyor belt, raw materials were put in at one end other bits added along the route then covered in the insulation layer, it slowly snaked out of the factory hot, cooling down on the way, around the factory, over the path along the dock and then onto the ship. Clever huh? Here's what's left of the loading area.

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There were loads of small yards and industrial warehouses slotted in between the large factories most have now gone and are being replaced by large distribution centres for the supermarkets. Being relatively close to the M25 with a good road network companies like Tesco, Lidl etc have built large hub/warehouses the one I photographed, through a meshed fence, is still being constructed. About 6 months ago there was what looked like a perfectly good building virtually exactly the same as the new one built about 5 years before, it must be cheaper to demolish and rebuild, including all the groundworks, than modify existing buildings.

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On one of Wapping's Wander I remember him saying about barges carrying containerised waste being taken down river to who knows where? Well here's the answer. This is the waste incinerator plant for London's rubbish. The barges are towed down and parked around the jetty, the crane lifts them onto shuttle trucks then they are driven into the building tip their load which is then burnt. The heat is used to generate electricity which is fed into the national grid. The ash is sieved to reclaim metals and the rest is loaded back into containers to be taken downstream to Tilbury to be incorporated into aggregate for road building. The empties are then taken back upstream to be filled again. There are two colours of container Blue and Yellow, the yellows vastly outnumber the blues so I presume the blues contain clinical or toxic waste and are processed differently?


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As I go along this route regularly I often take a pair of binoculars to look at the birds along the river, on this side of the building there are a couple of Peregrine Falcons that nest on a ledge near the chimney. I've got some good photos but they are still in the camera.

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They are building another what I presume is another incinerator next door that is causing a bit of controversy as it's encroaching ona nature reserve.

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Straight across the river from here is Ford's Dagenham plant. I don't think they make vehicles here anymore but they do make engines. They have quite a few of these transporter ships mooring here throughout the week they bring vehicles from Europe and presume send engines back. My dad got made redundant from a printing department of another cable manufacturer in Charlton and worked at Fords for a few months. The structures in the foreground are the remains of the landing stage for the employee's ferry service from this side of the river, it used to terrify my old Dad in the middle of a gale in winter going to a night shift, so much so that he wouldn't wear his issued steel toe capped boots in fear of ending up in the river.
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The next building we come to is another incinerator, this one burns human waste it's the sewage incinerator. This building burns the sludge leftover from the sewage treatment works at Crossness. The sewage works are huge and treat most of South London's sewage, there is a sister works across the river at Becton that handles the North London sewage. The building when first built was made of polished aluminium panels that could be seen for miles gleaming in the sunshine and was revolutionary of it's time now it's looking slightly disheveled, it would probably cost a fortune in man hours and Solvol to bring it back to it's original state. The wind turbine is in the nature reserve I was talking about previously.

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This part of the riverbank is covered in reeds and along with the sewage outlet is a prime bird spotting area, you have to put the effort in to get here on foot though, there's no parking for miles.

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I've reached my limit and I'm still about 6 miles from my destination, I'll be back....
 

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Not quite as quaint as Wapping's view, but equally interesting; thank you.
 
Carrying on...

The next photo is of the sewage outfall another prime spot for birds when the tide is right.The whole section of river bank from here downstream used to be covered in those little plastic cotton buds sticks but since the introduction of paper sticks they have all but disappeared.

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The sewage works must run along the river front for nearly a mile at the end is the old Crossness Pumping Station that contain two huge beam engines, one they steam up every now and then, that were built by Sir Joseph Bazalgette to solve the problem of the pollution of the Thames further upstream, didn't matter about us downstream! The engines and the fancy wrought iron inside, again only really ever seen by the workforce, have featured on lots of telly programmes and Fred himself did a programme on them once, the preservation team have gone a bit over the top as far as I am concerned, it looks like someone has tried to use up all there old Airfix model paint tins. No pictures of inside you'll have to Google them yourself.

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From now on all the land from here to the Woolwich ferry was owned by the Arsenal.

Along the path are these three lances I tried to find out in the past what they signify but have never found out.

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There are many old cannons and gun emplacements dotted along the path in front of Thamesmead, I not sure if they are there to stop marauders from the river or the residents of Thamesmead. I didn't stop for photos as it's Bandit Country but here's one of a pillbox set in the bank.20250104_130232.jpg
 

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Across the river is the last landing stage for the Clipper River Bus at Barking Creek. Occasionally the service runs down to Tilbury and Gravesend and there is talk of making it permanent now that the Tilbury to Gravesend Ferry the last way to cross the Thames before the sea has ceased operating.20250104_125148.jpg

A bit further along is another part of the flood defences at the mouth of the river Rodding along with the Thames Barrier and one at Dartford Creek.20250104_125617.jpg

Moving along the path goes through a wooded area lovely and cool in the summer, thinking about it it was chuffing chilly yesterday. The access to the river foreshore is easy here and it's interesting having a rummage about here for clay pipes, watch out for the Feds though, you need to have a Mudlark's permit to pick up anything... You can see the skeleton of an old sailing barge in one photo.20250104_141613.jpg20250104_130439.jpg

Due to the river meandering about you can see The Isle of Dogs the wrong side of the Shard.20250104_125207.jpg
 
I'm having to do this in smaller chunks as for some reason I write loads and suddenly it all disappeared. Who said GOOD!

We are finally nearing our destination. In this picture you can see the mooring posts with their floating fenders, they park the big stuff here sometimes, tall ships, naval boats, cruise ship etc. You can also see the Woolwich Arsenal clipper pontoon to the left.20250104_132024.jpg

I'll put in a photo of the Woolwich Ferry here. There are two running today and they are still free to cross. These boats are a couple of years old now. They look like mini aircraft carriers to me. You can see the names, one is of a local girl made good, the other is named after a deckhand who died whilst working on the ferry. What is strange about this photo is the ferrys usually stay berthed until all passing shipping is clear but this Uber boat has caught them out. Another interesting thing is the Uber boats, usually quite rapid slow to a crawl when they pass between the ferry terminals even if the ferry isn't running.

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Very interesting pictures. They’re not making me want to travel south but they show an interesting side of city life.
 
At last the Arsenal.

The Arsenal was founded by Henry VIII on what was called Woolwich Warren and was a large armements factory turning out vast quantities artillery pieces and munitions. The whole locality of what was originally North West Kent were turning out stuff to kill other people. Along with the Arsenal there were factories in Crayford (Vickers) and Erith (Armstrongs).

Most of the old buildings that haven't been demolished are now apartments and the gaps left are filled with modern blocks. 20250104_132558.jpg20250104_132841.jpg20250104_132416.jpg

The place is littered with guns cannons and mortars each having a plaque telling the reader where it was from, calibre etc.

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There's some fancy ironwork like the gates to the Shell Foundry. That's my mode of transport Infront of the Foundry Gate House.

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They have other exhibits dotted around. I don't think they lift these to dust under them.

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Here are some more of the buildings.

The Gatehouse to the Brass Foundry.

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The Cadets Training Academy, note the wind direction dial above the clock.20250104_135156.jpg20250104_135240.jpg

They had an extensive railway system around the site to move heavy equipment, gun barrels and munitions around the site, this is the engine shed.20250104_133942.jpg

The Guardhouse inside the perimeter wall, now a pub.20250104_134451.jpg

The old river Guardhouses, ones a dog groomer the other a café

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The Last one is for Gooner and any other Gunner fans.

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The whole site is interesting if you like industrial history. It is a community in itself with its own shops, leisure facilities, DLR and Elizabeth Line stations, a regular farmers market and other stuff. I find it a bit sad that it is now not of my world but I am thankful that a lot of the history is kept and looked after and now, unlike up until a few years ago, available to view and read about all that went on on the other side of those tall foreboding walls we used to pass as kids.

If you ever visit Greenwich it's worth jumping on the train, bus or three stops on the river bus and having a look round here, their histories are entwined.
 
Excellent

My mum was a cleaner for a bit in the Royal Arsenal while Dad was in the Royal Artillery on national service.
When he left he got a job in Woolwich gasworks decoking…apparently a mucky job but it paid more.

Thats a great write up (y)
 
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That's your lot. Next mission from the Arsenal to Greenwich, as the first part of the route will be the same as today I'll spare you going over the same boring bits next time...
 
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Interesting stuff, we use to live south of Gravesend and previously in Bexley, so good to see your south of the river photos (y)
 
My grandfather did his training at the Woolwich Royal Military Academy. That was before Sandhurst existed.
The Military is also now all apartments. The barracks across the road are also due to be vacated by the military by 2028, the Kings Troop will stay in the nearby Napier Lines barracks though. The Council opposed the selling of the land but who knows what will happen once it's empty? Knowing the current government it will probably be turned into a huge immigration/refugee centre.
 
Thank you for posting up your wander along the river. I know that it takes time to put up the pictures and write the words; much appreciated.
Thanks, it took longer than I thought as after the first post, when I reached the attachment limit, I started a new post but as I kept typing away, inserting photos but for some reason it all kept disappearing as a photo uploaded. As I'm doing it on an old android tablet so I think it's a lack of memory and processor speed issues.

However the relatively new website platform is a lot more user friendly for attaching many photos rather than hosting them on another site or having to reduce image size and limited to five.

Thanks for tidying up that last photo of the Ferry I tried deleting it but it popped back up after I posted it and had had enough by then.
 
The forum limits the number of pictures in any one post to 14, up from the previous nine.

I agree, the ‘new’ forum makes it much easier to attach pictures.
 


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