Same problem. Gone onto the ACU site to get a licence and their site asks for an MCC affiliation number....
Land's End Trial 2013
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Same problem. Gone onto the ACU site to get a licence and their site asks for an MCC affiliation number....
Entered just put a ? Where it asked for ACU number
So what's the format, how do you navigate GPS, Map, road book etc...
What do you have to do to win
What do you have to do to win
To get an ACU licence (Costs about £10), you need to first join an ACU Trials club
So join the MCC or your local one first, they will give you a unique ID number and then you get an ACU licence
Bit of a balls ache, but if you compete often, it quite easy when you go to a Trial and join on the day and the Sec signs your ACU licence form there and then
You may or may not have got an online entry, not sure if they will accept your entries without an ACU licence
First thing I would do, is join the MCC tonight, get the unique ID ref and then download the ACU licence form and join that...................then once you have your ACU licence no, you can fully submit your Land's End entry
Phew...........................
So join the MCC or your local one first, they will give you a unique ID number and then you get an ACU licence
Bit of a balls ache, but if you compete often, it quite easy when you go to a Trial and join on the day and the Sec signs your ACU licence form there and then
You may or may not have got an online entry, not sure if they will accept your entries without an ACU licence
First thing I would do, is join the MCC tonight, get the unique ID ref and then download the ACU licence form and join that...................then once you have your ACU licence no, you can fully submit your Land's End entry
Phew...........................
Cheers JB. Joined the MCC and got a 4 digit membership number. The £10 acu licence requires a 6 digit MCC accreditation number. Emailed the MCC membership secretary tonight to see if he can help.
Cheers JB. Joined the MCC and got a 4 digit membership number. The £10 acu licence requires a 6 digit MCC accreditation number. Emailed the MCC membership secretary tonight to see if he can help.
Good man, he will email you the right Club code and then enter that to get an ACU Trials licence online (word of warning, you will have to forward a passport photo to the ACU at some point)
Once you have the ACU Trials Licence - you're good to go
Looks like this shows most f the hills. http://youtu.be/iFE7X_hfJp0
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I am going to give it a shot I think. I'll get onto the mcc web tomorrow & get the ball rolling. Think I should get myself & the bike fettled, maybe one of my first 2013 rides. But firstly get the entry sorted out. Sounds like a bit of bother.
Jase
Jase
Got the affiliation number today so can sort the acu licence. Not sure if its the same number for everyone so if you need it drop John Childs at the MCC an email.
Don't you go cheating and buy a 690. It needs to be on your old bus so I've half a chance of you falling off more than me.
Don't you go cheating and buy a 690. It needs to be on your old bus so I've half a chance of you falling off more than me.
Each club generates a unique number to you which the ACU recognises & thus allows you to obtain your trials licence
Bit of a palaver
I'm thinking of having a go.
Joined the TMCC. Just waiting for the affiliation code.
Quite excited and I've not even committed yet.
Joined the TMCC. Just waiting for the affiliation code.
Quite excited and I've not even committed yet.
Hi All,
I've just entered the Land's End on my XChallenge, starting from Michaelwood - did the Exeter on it a couple of weeks back.
To answer some of the questions if they've not already been answered:
1. ACU number - once you've joined the MCC you need to e-mail the MCC membership secretary (not the club secretary) who will send you an affiliation number that you can use to get your ACU trials registration. You must show your ACU card at the start.
2. Tyres - TKC80s are allowed for bikes in class C (>450cc). This is allowed because it's a struggle to get a trials tyre for a 17" wheel, that many bikes (e.g. HP2?) have. Most of the entry use either MT43s or TKC80s. I don't believe T63s are allowed.
3. Fuel - if you have 100 miles range and don't get lost you should be fine, but check the routebook when it's published. The route includes several fuel stops. It's mainly on tarmac with trails leading to/from the observed sections.
4. 'Winning' - although there are best in class awards and a best bike award the concept is to compete against the club. A 'clean' on time ride will get you a gold medal, one penalty drops you to a silver, another to a bronze, more to a finisher's certificate. Three golds in one season gets you a Triple - not easy as a single foot on a section can blow it all.
5. Please make sure your bike is road legal and is quiet. The last few Land's Ends have included a noise test. These events have been running for over 100 years, some of the sections have been in use for decades, and the MCC has maintained good PR - it would be nice to keep it that way.
6. Read the route and regs thoroughly, and don't forget your ACU card, MCC Membership card, and MOT certificate if you need one. Although all the rules seem complicated the reality is you soon get used to them.
7. Try to have some means of reading the route card at night - a rally roadbook reader is the high end solution, but many competitors make their own.
I've ridden many of these events over the years so feel free to PM any questions or better still post them here for the benefit of all. I'm happy for beginners to ride round with me if you're nervous (and have a decent silencer) and we can find other old hands to do the same from the various starts.
How about a couple of UKGSer teams?
Cheers,
Ian.
I've just entered the Land's End on my XChallenge, starting from Michaelwood - did the Exeter on it a couple of weeks back.
To answer some of the questions if they've not already been answered:
1. ACU number - once you've joined the MCC you need to e-mail the MCC membership secretary (not the club secretary) who will send you an affiliation number that you can use to get your ACU trials registration. You must show your ACU card at the start.
2. Tyres - TKC80s are allowed for bikes in class C (>450cc). This is allowed because it's a struggle to get a trials tyre for a 17" wheel, that many bikes (e.g. HP2?) have. Most of the entry use either MT43s or TKC80s. I don't believe T63s are allowed.
3. Fuel - if you have 100 miles range and don't get lost you should be fine, but check the routebook when it's published. The route includes several fuel stops. It's mainly on tarmac with trails leading to/from the observed sections.
4. 'Winning' - although there are best in class awards and a best bike award the concept is to compete against the club. A 'clean' on time ride will get you a gold medal, one penalty drops you to a silver, another to a bronze, more to a finisher's certificate. Three golds in one season gets you a Triple - not easy as a single foot on a section can blow it all.
5. Please make sure your bike is road legal and is quiet. The last few Land's Ends have included a noise test. These events have been running for over 100 years, some of the sections have been in use for decades, and the MCC has maintained good PR - it would be nice to keep it that way.
6. Read the route and regs thoroughly, and don't forget your ACU card, MCC Membership card, and MOT certificate if you need one. Although all the rules seem complicated the reality is you soon get used to them.
7. Try to have some means of reading the route card at night - a rally roadbook reader is the high end solution, but many competitors make their own.
I've ridden many of these events over the years so feel free to PM any questions or better still post them here for the benefit of all. I'm happy for beginners to ride round with me if you're nervous (and have a decent silencer) and we can find other old hands to do the same from the various starts.
How about a couple of UKGSer teams?
Cheers,
Ian.
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We should have a little camping weekend down at Blue Hills, few beers, meal and cheer them up.
http://bluehillscampsite.co.uk/
http://bluehillscampsite.co.uk/
Thanks for the help Ian, should be invaluable for newbies
On tyre choices, I just had a look and it seems T63 are ok for Class C
SSR 2012 Page 4
D. PERMITTED TYRES.
Tread Patterns of Tyres as manufactured must NOT be CUT or ALTERED in any way.
MOTORCYCLE CLASSES:
Tyres used on MCC events must be suitable for ON ROAD use.
The MCC wish the competitor to join in the spirit of the event by choosing tyres that are nonaggressive
in appearance or destructive in use.
TYRES for Long Distance Trials must be road legal.
The space between the tread blocks must NOT extend across the complete tyre, measured at right angles
to the tyre wall unless broken by a block. In addition competitors in class C ONLY will be permitted to
use either Continental TKC 80 tyres or Michelin T63 tyres.
Only tyres normally available from Commercial or Retail sources for use on the Public Highway are
permitted. They shall appear in the tyre manufacturers range catalogue or tyre specification lists available
to the general public.
They must be manufactured to comply with the European Tyre and Rim Technical Organisation (ETRTO)
requirements in respect of load and speed codes and have a minimum service description of 45M.
We advise all motorcycle competitors soft compound trials tyres are NOT SUITABLE for
MCC Long Distance Trials, using the public road. These tyres suffer from excessive wear, causing
the break-up of the tyre, making these tyres extremely dangerous.
It is the competitor’s responsibility to ensure that the tyres fitted to his/her machine carry the correct load
and speed rating.
STANDARD ROAD TYRES. For the purposes of MCC events Motorcycle Standard Road Tyres are
defined as having a gap between the tread blocks NOT exceeding 6 mm, and a maximum tread
depth of 10 mm. These dimensions will apply irrespective of machine manufacturers or tyre
manufacturer's statements.
On tyre choices, I just had a look and it seems T63 are ok for Class C
SSR 2012 Page 4
D. PERMITTED TYRES.
Tread Patterns of Tyres as manufactured must NOT be CUT or ALTERED in any way.
MOTORCYCLE CLASSES:
Tyres used on MCC events must be suitable for ON ROAD use.
The MCC wish the competitor to join in the spirit of the event by choosing tyres that are nonaggressive
in appearance or destructive in use.
TYRES for Long Distance Trials must be road legal.
The space between the tread blocks must NOT extend across the complete tyre, measured at right angles
to the tyre wall unless broken by a block. In addition competitors in class C ONLY will be permitted to
use either Continental TKC 80 tyres or Michelin T63 tyres.
Only tyres normally available from Commercial or Retail sources for use on the Public Highway are
permitted. They shall appear in the tyre manufacturers range catalogue or tyre specification lists available
to the general public.
They must be manufactured to comply with the European Tyre and Rim Technical Organisation (ETRTO)
requirements in respect of load and speed codes and have a minimum service description of 45M.
We advise all motorcycle competitors soft compound trials tyres are NOT SUITABLE for
MCC Long Distance Trials, using the public road. These tyres suffer from excessive wear, causing
the break-up of the tyre, making these tyres extremely dangerous.
It is the competitor’s responsibility to ensure that the tyres fitted to his/her machine carry the correct load
and speed rating.
STANDARD ROAD TYRES. For the purposes of MCC events Motorcycle Standard Road Tyres are
defined as having a gap between the tread blocks NOT exceeding 6 mm, and a maximum tread
depth of 10 mm. These dimensions will apply irrespective of machine manufacturers or tyre
manufacturer's statements.
Perhaps I should read the regs 
These events are addictive, and apart from the trailbike rallies, amongst the few opportunities for competition on a big trail bike.
I get the 'never again' feeling at about 3 or 4 a.m., but sure enough when the regs come out the entry's soon in the post. This year's Exeter was an exception - temperature around 10 degrees most of the time. Didn't even switch on the electric vest. Post-trial pint went down as well as ever.
Are you entering JB?
These events are addictive, and apart from the trailbike rallies, amongst the few opportunities for competition on a big trail bike.
I get the 'never again' feeling at about 3 or 4 a.m., but sure enough when the regs come out the entry's soon in the post. This year's Exeter was an exception - temperature around 10 degrees most of the time. Didn't even switch on the electric vest. Post-trial pint went down as well as ever.
Are you entering JB?
Perhaps I should read the regs
These events are addictive, and apart from the trailbike rallies, amongst the few opportunities for competition on a big trail bike.
I get the 'never again' feeling at about 3 or 4 a.m., but sure enough when the regs come out the entry's soon in the post. This year's Exeter was an exception - temperature around 10 degrees most of the time. Didn't even switch on the electric vest. Post-trial pint went down as well as ever.
Are you entering JB?
Unfortunately I'm committed to something else this Easter, but fancy the Edinburgh in Oct as a warm-up for 2014 and a try for a triple crown perhaps
Won a triple crown in the 80's as a car team, but never on the bike - so something I should have a bash at
I saw your bike in the Devon TRF, Simms footage and hadn't realised anyone entered on an XChallenge
How did you get on, is the bike suitable with the Fi & airshock etc
Which bike would you recommend - XR250 or XChallenge?
I have a secret desire to do it on a twinshock 1980's DR400S, for some stupid reason and I can't think why, that particular bike - perhaps it just looks like the ideal MCC twinshock to me
The X was fine - I have an Ohlins shock on it, standard gearing, and MT43 tyres. The headlight was adequate.
It's difficult to recommend a particular bike. In general of course the smaller the bike the more competitive in technical going, but less comfortable over the distance, and in class B (up to 450cc) you generally have to do more re-starts than in class C (over 450cc).
I can also recommend the Ilkley Classic trial, run around May - ridden that on a 640 KTM in the past.
Cheers,
Ian.
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