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Le périphérique - now has a 50km/h speed limit
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Hey, worry more about les scooters! And remember, like Itlay, the locals take all limits as a minimum and advisory!
I don't speak French.
What does he say in the video?
I suspect it can be summed up in a sentence rather than 11 minutes?
What does he say in the video?
I suspect it can be summed up in a sentence rather than 11 minutes?
J biker
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Yep, just like a speech by Macron, shorten it by 90%…I don't speak French.
What does he say in the video?
I suspect it can be summed up in a sentence rather than 11 minutes?
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I don't speak French.
What does he say in the video?
I suspect it can be summed up in a sentence rather than 11 minutes?
It’s a knock on effect of the speed limit being reduced to 50kmh
Apparently you’re only allowed to filter on motorways or roads with a speed limit of 70kmh or more
This is obviously a big problem for bikes and scooters of which there are quite a lot in Paris for obvious reasons
If I was cynical I’d say the mairie of Paris is going to make a lot of money from fines, it’s 135 euros + 3 points for filtering and it’s also 135 euros for exceeding a 50 limit whereas exceeding a 70 limit was only 68 euros
Or maybe it’s for some other reason
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Ah ok. Thanks.
I don't think that has ever been observed or enforced (<70kmh≠filtering) though.
Is it just YouTube drama?
I filtered (along with a lot of happy/fast French motards) on the periferique where cars were on a standstill many times over the years.
Same in built up areas and motorways.
I admit that, even though I grew up on scooters and motorbikes in Roman traffic, so I'm quite used to heavy traffic and heavy filtering, and I know that the French reserve space for the bikes, the speed differential that the French riders keep when the cars are very slow or static is a bit too much for my liking. Sometimes I pull aside and let them pass if I have anyone approaching behind, and then rejoin filtering at my speed.
(I ride in France in a similar manner to how I would in Italy, that is a bit 'speedier' than I would in the UK, and never had an issue or complaint from other drivers or coppers.)
I don't think that has ever been observed or enforced (<70kmh≠filtering) though.
Is it just YouTube drama?
I filtered (along with a lot of happy/fast French motards) on the periferique where cars were on a standstill many times over the years.
Same in built up areas and motorways.
I admit that, even though I grew up on scooters and motorbikes in Roman traffic, so I'm quite used to heavy traffic and heavy filtering, and I know that the French reserve space for the bikes, the speed differential that the French riders keep when the cars are very slow or static is a bit too much for my liking. Sometimes I pull aside and let them pass if I have anyone approaching behind, and then rejoin filtering at my speed.
(I ride in France in a similar manner to how I would in Italy, that is a bit 'speedier' than I would in the UK, and never had an issue or complaint from other drivers or coppers.)
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No, as you say, everyone filters in France regardless of speed limits
Technically it has never been legally included in the code de la route but it’s always been tolerated
Since 2021 it’s been allowed legally as an experiment which at present will end 31st December 2024
www.service-public.fr
The only noticeable difference I’ve found riding in Italy is that bikes seem to ignore solid white lines in towns almost completely, the French do this a lot less
Technically it has never been legally included in the code de la route but it’s always been tolerated
Since 2021 it’s been allowed legally as an experiment which at present will end 31st December 2024
Circulation inter-files : l'expérimentation est prolongée jusqu'à fin 2024
Circulation inter-files : l'expérimentation est prolongée jusqu'à fin 2024
www.service-public.fr
The only noticeable difference I’ve found riding in Italy is that bikes seem to ignore solid white lines in towns almost completely, the French do this a lot less
Ok, so most probably nothing will change in the real world
100% correct.
It's the first thing I learnt that is a no-no (people beep at you) in the UK back when I moved over here.
On open roads it is expected/tolerated that a motorcycle will cross a solid white line to overtake a slow moving car if there is enough visibility.
Then people (on bikes) should be rational about this, but that's not always the case.
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How do the Italian plod treat it?
I apply the “when in Rome” policy and copied the locals but I’ve wondered a few times if I was being dumb
I apply the “when in Rome” policy and copied the locals but I’ve wondered a few times if I was being dumb
I wouldn't do in front of them.
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You can overtake on single line if you stay within the lane.
I don't think they are gonna debate if you touch the line.
Funny story from quite a few years ago, before I moved to London, 2007.
I was going from Rome to Cortina with a Friend, and we both overtook a car going over a hump on the road. Double white lines because of the hump of course, we both went a tiny bit over when on the crest of the hump and overtook.
Police just behind it: stop.
My friend went through with a warning.
When they stopped me they found that:
1. I forgot my driving license that morning at a service station
2. The bike was supposed to go through its first MOT (registered 2003) and I forgot it
3. I did the overtake on the double lines
They completely missed, or pretended not to see
, the straight uncat pipes into the Remus exhaust (bike was fairly loud).
The officer was super nice and told me: "I really wanted to send you on your way with a warning, but with these three things I HAVE TO book you for something - I'm sorry".
They did me for missed MOT.
They took the bike's paperwork and I had to go back to Rome (via most direct route) and had the bike self-inpounded in my garage for three months and then had to go back there (Umbria) to have it MOTted.
I don't think they are gonna debate if you touch the line.
Funny story from quite a few years ago, before I moved to London, 2007.
I was going from Rome to Cortina with a Friend, and we both overtook a car going over a hump on the road. Double white lines because of the hump of course, we both went a tiny bit over when on the crest of the hump and overtook.
Police just behind it: stop.
My friend went through with a warning.
When they stopped me they found that:
1. I forgot my driving license that morning at a service station
2. The bike was supposed to go through its first MOT (registered 2003) and I forgot it
3. I did the overtake on the double lines
They completely missed, or pretended not to see
, the straight uncat pipes into the Remus exhaust (bike was fairly loud).The officer was super nice and told me: "I really wanted to send you on your way with a warning, but with these three things I HAVE TO book you for something - I'm sorry".
They did me for missed MOT.
They took the bike's paperwork and I had to go back to Rome (via most direct route) and had the bike self-inpounded in my garage for three months and then had to go back there (Umbria) to have it MOTted.
press closed captions , go to settings auto translate or pick a language.I don't speak French.
What does he say in the video?
I suspect it can be summed up in a sentence rather than 11 minutes?
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My memories of the preripherique,(fuck knows how its spelt)
Back in the 90’s,a group of us were heading down to the euro demo,
The chap at the front,Ray,said “ for fucks sake don’t let me miss the turn for the LP.
Sure enough,he sailed straight past it.
Despite about 6 bikes waving and sounding horns.
Kudos to the bloke though,he managed to lead us straight through the centre of Paris on a Friday afternoon and get us to about a mile or two from the demo campsite without more than one or two map checks.
The Friday afternoon ride,and the following demo ride were a complete hoot,
Running red lights,chopping through blocked junctions,
On the Saturday obviously riding without helmets and wheelies at every opportunity.
I’ve always seemingly ridden the LP on a Friday afternoon ,and found it very entertaining,,with high speed filtering but the car drivers very predictable.
On a panniered gs ,once the crazy scooter riders ( in their moccasins) build up behind you just pull in,let them passed and follow till you have another queue behind.
I hope the changes haven’t made the road worse,but it was nothing to be scared of with the right mind set,and I’d say ,far safer than the M 25
Back in the 90’s,a group of us were heading down to the euro demo,
The chap at the front,Ray,said “ for fucks sake don’t let me miss the turn for the LP.
Sure enough,he sailed straight past it.
Despite about 6 bikes waving and sounding horns.
Kudos to the bloke though,he managed to lead us straight through the centre of Paris on a Friday afternoon and get us to about a mile or two from the demo campsite without more than one or two map checks.
The Friday afternoon ride,and the following demo ride were a complete hoot,
Running red lights,chopping through blocked junctions,
On the Saturday obviously riding without helmets and wheelies at every opportunity.
I’ve always seemingly ridden the LP on a Friday afternoon ,and found it very entertaining,,with high speed filtering but the car drivers very predictable.
On a panniered gs ,once the crazy scooter riders ( in their moccasins) build up behind you just pull in,let them passed and follow till you have another queue behind.
I hope the changes haven’t made the road worse,but it was nothing to be scared of with the right mind set,and I’d say ,far safer than the M 25
