Lower topbox mounting

sproggy

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Common sense and engineering principles indicate that if you have to carry a heavy, unaerodynamic object on a motorcycle you should carry it as low down and as far forward (towards the rider) as possible. Presumably this is the reasoning behind the pillion mounting option for the topbox.

Why, then, did they decide that when mounting the box in the conventional position behind the pillion, instead of mounting it immediately above the rear light and behind the pillion pad, they would build a little tower thingy (they even call it a bridge - bridge over what? :confused: ) to raise it a few inches? To give it the best possible chance of making the bike as top heavy as possible and to have the greatest possible effect on aerodynamics? :spitfire

My pillion never uses the grab handles so the luggage bridge is redundant as far as I'm concerned. So I want to remove the bridge and mount the box lower down on the 'deck'. It's not rocket science to make an adapter place to achieve this but I don't want to re-invent the wheel if someone has already done it. Anyone tried? Anyone found a product for sale that allows this with the standard box?

If not I'm going to spend some happy hours butchering some bits of scrap in my garage - the mounting plate is so ugly as it is I'm hardly likely to make it look worse by attaching a home made adapter plate, am I?
 
Agreed

No disagreement here... This is the solution I used, but the rack is homemade (and, no, I don't want to go into production). It was fairly simple to design and construct, carries my topbox lower, and if I ever do the LWR thing (yeah, right), remove the plate and it gives me a huge flat area to strap on the kitchen sink.
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Bullwinkle, where did you get the pipe to drop the zorst please????
Eer! do you still have the paper template for the rackie thingie?????

:beerjug: Lyn.
 
Love that rack. Nice work mate. :clap I'd be up for droppping you a pint if you'll pm or publish your drawing.
Great solution! :thumb
 
Looks great :thumb Exactly the sort of thing I had in mind amd looks pretty professional too. Sure you don't want to go into production...?!
 
I see that you have also mounted the 1150 system side panniers - I myself have thought of this. Please post a pic and any info on the racks etc you have constructed to make this possible. Thanks.
 
Hope this helps...

I posted some of these pics some time ago, but I couldn't find them with a search, so my apologies to those that think I'm repeating myself...

To mount the full-size bags, the pipe must be lowered. A friend made a short adapter piece with approx. 15 degree bend in it, machined to mate with the collector output spigot and the muffler inlet. The junction is covered by a commercially available 3 inch stainless clamp. As this will change the centre stand stop location, a new stop was fabricated for the muffler, and the centre stand stop cut down (getting the stand back on the bike was the hardest part).
Lowpipe6.jpg

Next, an extended muffler hanger was made. The dogleg was to accomodate the front bag mount.
Bagmts8.jpg

The finished pipe looks okay, and preserves the factory warrantee.
Lowpipe3.jpg

The top bag mounts were fabricated with angle iron and rubber tubing and attached to the stock mushroom bolt location.
bagmts2.jpg

For stability, a front clamp was used on to the stock mounts.
Bagmts18.jpg

The lower mounts attached to the bottom of the passenger pegs (replaced the stock pins with bolts), and the exhaust hanger on the left and a stock frame clamp on the right.
Bagmts8.jpg

I'm just an average hack with a hobby welder (I build from scratch so I have no paper plans or anything), and while it was a bit of work, I'm happy with the results.
Tourkit3.jpg

Sorry to not be of more help, but if anyone is interested in doing any of this themselves, I hope this provides some ideas.
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Thanks for the detailed info, Bullwinkle. Judging from the last photo it's a far better-looking solution than the vario cases.

Does the lower exhaust prove a problem in terms of ground clearance in left hand bends?
 
Not even close to a clearance problem, with the pipe or the bags (unless the lean angle is such that the wheels are off the ground). :D
 


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