Luggage Racks

Looks like a nice set up, I decided some time ago to go down the soft luggage route but wasn't sure if anyone had used the hepco's "in anger" and how they stood up. I've been looking out for a used big tank to crop up as I can't justify the £ for a new one. The aux tank on this set up looks a good way to increase the range and a lot less heath robinson than some solutions I've seen. Johnny have you changed your rear subframe for the steel one or stuck with the ally?
 
H &B Racks

I have the H&B racks on my X. I modified them to move them forward to get better weight distribution. Whilst at it I strengthened the subframe where it has be known to crack. See pics below:

I new top hat had to be welded into the frame. The pic shows how much further forward the frames have been moved. I'm using the large steel pony bags and this is as far forward as they can come whilst still leaving room for some paddling through mud.

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Photo of frames tacked in place before final welding. I had to weld the fixing brackets to the frames at the top mounts. Makes the rack stronger too.

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This shows the strengthening plates in situ.

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Hepco Becker racks

Any views / comments on the Hepco & Becker pannier racks. I'm starting to get the X better prepped and thinking about these bad boys just thought I'd ask if anyone has any comments good or negative?

This is the set up I'm thinking of going for:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6929697&postcount=1189

I have the Hepco & Becker racks, which I like. At present I use hard luggage, but may well go soft luggage for my next trip.

The way you can remove the racks and leave the attaching hardwear on the bike is a real advantage for swapping roles quickly.
 

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Magno I've read about people swapping the ally rear sub frame for the steel one out of the country but I wasn't sure I'd need to do this. I won't be going anywhere 2up and with soft luggage I figured it'd be strong enough as is. Did you modify this yourself or have an engineering company carry this out? I'd be interested to know of the cost and who carried this out?

Gmac have you modified the subframe on yours or left it standard?
 
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Peak, yes I have strengthened the subframe, we went to a local fabricator to copy the subframe in steel, but he thought that with bracing the ally one was sufficient. And so far he has been proved right, with two good trips to Morocco, one of which with way too much luggage!!
 
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Magno I've read about people swapping the ally rear sub frame for the steel one out of the country but I wasn't sure I'd need to do this. I won't be going anywhere 2up and with soft luggage I figured it'd be strong enough as is. Did you modify this yourself or have an engineering company carry this out? I'd be interested to know of the cost and who carried this out?

That's all Vern's handywork. I see you're not too far from him. He agreed with me in that strengthening the subframe as per the pics and moving the racks further forward would reduce the possibility of it cracking. To be honest, the cracked frames I've seen look like they have failed due to serious overloading. I decided to do mine as we were modifying the position of the racks at the same time.

Drop him a PM if you want to discuss things - top bloke!
 
I have Dirtbagz too and they work fine without adding too much weight or stress to the subframe. Some little toerag kicked my bike over and left her lying in the street and the metal frame gave good protection, also they're strong enough to use to pull the bike around. The bags seem to be waterproof, well made and strong enough. So be on the safe side I use a bungie on each as a shock absorber. No problems with them at all and they've seen a good amount of use so far in various conditions. IN terms of subframe strength, the cross beam supports where the pillion sits so the only issue would be to load weight further back. We did 6000 miles around Europe two up with heavy equipment with no issues, I'm currently 3500 miles into the middle east, again no issues. Just be careful not to load any weight too far back and I'm sure you'll be fine. The steel subframe of the later X-country is slightly different in design, welded pegs for one. Some racks might not fit. Touratech also make a steel frame and box kit, it's not much more money. I was quoted £800 for the BMW frame, £1100 for the touratech with boxes. THe TT one does not have rear footpegs if memory serves. I couldn't find a single solution that gave me everything I wanted so I just spent £300 on Dirtbagz and the rest on beer.
My only issue was getting them to England where I got stung by customs. Otherwise they were the cheapest option and have worked out great.
 
I have Dirtbagz too and they work fine without adding too much weight or stress to the subframe. Some little toerag kicked my bike over and left her lying in the street and the metal frame gave good protection, also they're strong enough to use to pull the bike around. The bags seem to be waterproof, well made and strong enough. So be on the safe side I use a bungie on each as a shock absorber. No problems with them at all and they've seen a good amount of use so far in various conditions. IN terms of subframe strength, the cross beam supports where the pillion sits so the only issue would be to load weight further back. We did 6000 miles around Europe two up with heavy equipment with no issues, I'm currently 3500 miles into the middle east, again no issues. Just be careful not to load any weight too far back and I'm sure you'll be fine. The steel subframe of the later X-country is slightly different in design, welded pegs for one. Some racks might not fit. Touratech also make a steel frame and box kit, it's not much more money. I was quoted £800 for the BMW frame, £1100 for the touratech with boxes. THe TT one does not have rear footpegs if memory serves. I couldn't find a single solution that gave me everything I wanted so I just spent £300 on Dirtbagz and the rest on beer.
My only issue was getting them to England where I got stung by customs. Otherwise they were the cheapest option and have worked out great.

That's good to hear, looking forward to fitting my Dirtbagz
 
have you seen the rack/panniers/bags Cole and Erik are putting together on advrider ?
 
+1 for Dirtbagz :thumb

Not used mine yet but they certainly look the part and fit OK. Not very big capacity but I succumb to the theory that you will only ever fill all available space ... I travel light :thumb

Top quality and great people to deal with :thumb

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I've packed light for the middle east and so far not even used what crap I'm carrying in the bags. Underwear is cheap here so it's easier to throw it out than pay to launder it. What else do you need when you're riding all day, every day. Beer I guess....
 
I've packed light for the middle east and so far not even used what crap I'm carrying in the bags. Underwear is cheap here so it's easier to throw it out than pay to launder it. What else do you need when you're riding all day, every day. Beer I guess....


I used just three pair of the BMW underpants (OK ... I know) on a six month trip ;)

They came cheap, are superb quality. In the shower with them, wash them, dry the next morning no matter the conditions :thumb

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I have had H&B rack with bicycle soft bags for over a year:
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From begining of this year I switched to GiantLoop Coyote and have ridden with it over 10 000km (with 3 weeks trip to russian far north Rybatchy and Sredny peninsulas, and 1 week trip to ukrainian Carpathian). Its much smaller (almost a size of one bicycle pannier bag) but it fits XChallenge very vell. It limits the number of useless stuff that you takes on trip.
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GL allow to ride in hard terrain where bicycle pannier bags were a pain.
It seems to be some kind of consensus between how low all weight parts of equipment should be located and how much clearance you need when traveling in terrain....
 
It's going to be the H&B's chaps, going down the route Magnos taken and I'm off to see Vern next weekend :thumb2
 
I’ve just had this rear carrier made for my Xchallenge out of 2mm thickness stainless steel by Mark Hooton of Cymarc Engineering, Scunthorpe (01724 289222). The carrier can be used to strap a roll bag or weekend bag to the bike without fear of it touching the exhaust. It can be easily removed with the four fixing bolts and can also be used in conjunction with the small rear Touratech carrier. Mark has made a superb job of making this for me and the workmanship is second to none. If there is anyone interested in one I am sure that Mark will be only too happy to supply.
 

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Hotrod Luggage racks

These have been designed by Hotrod welding in holland, he has a template made for manufacture.

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Do you know what Eric is charging for these?
 


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