M8 Exhaust / Muffler system

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Unlike my old twin cam model, the exhaust actuator flap went from operating the right side muffler to the left. Therefore, even on a good run the left muffler does not get hot consequently, it has allowed moisture to accumulate and now showing rust.

Can someone explain how the system works and if it is possible to lower the threshold whereby the actuator flap open to allow hot gasses to pass through?

I have V&H stage 1 fitted.
Thanks
 

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Can you not remove or disable it; plenty of info on line on how to do it and avoid codes. I think it’s purely a noise thing and not performance related. I’m no expert , but is that not what many do on their GSs🤷‍♂️
 
Can you not remove or disable it; plenty of info on line on how to do it and avoid codes. I think it’s purely a noise thing and not performance related. I’m no expert , but is that not what many do on their GSs🤷‍♂️
Where’s it fitted on this model?
 
The below suggests yours is seized or not operating, (rust and exhaust not getting hot).

  • Location: On M8 Touring bikes, the flap is in the muffler, sometimes in the left muffler, controlled by a motor near the battery.
  • Function: It opens and closes to change exhaust gas flow, creating quieter (closed/restricted) or louder (open/wide-open) modes, impacting sound and performance.
  • Control: A handlebar button (on some aftermarket systems) or the bike's ECU controls the valve.
Common Issues & Modifications
  • Corrosion: Moisture buildup, especially in the non-primary muffler (left side), can cause rust.
  • Mechanical Failure: The actuator motor or cable can fail, or a screw from the throttle body flap can come loose and damage the engine.
  • Mods for More Sound/Power:
    • Mechanical: Relocating the spring to hold the valve open for full flow.
    • Electronic: Aftermarket tuners can often disable it electronically.
    • Aftermarket Exhausts: Full systems (like Vance & Hines, S&S) often replace the stock muffler, eliminating the flap or integrating a better one (like Dr. Jekill & Mr. Hyde).
What to Do if You Have Issues
  1. Check for Corrosion: Inspect the muffler for rust, especially if it's not getting hot.
  2. Listen for Noises: A fluttering noise might indicate the flap is loose or there's reversion.
  3. Consider Mods: If you want a better sound or performance, explore options like x-pipes or full exhaust replacements, often recommended by builders like DK Custom Products.
For more in-depth help, you might want to know if you're experiencing a specific problem (like noise, rust, or performance issues) or if you're looking for upgrade advice, as this will determine the best solution.
 
I’m still struggling. I cannot for the life of me, find a reference in any of my (genuine) Harley manuals for any exhaust valve on UK spec M8 or TC touring bikes of “my era” . Willing to be educated. This is the 2019 touring model manual. IMG_9131.jpeg
 
Digging …and listening… it appears that the valve appears in 2007 for EU models….hence why not on my later (US spec police bike) Twin cam….and I can’t find one on my M8 exhaust system, which is sitting on the shelf in my shed..
 
My 2022 Road King has rust in the LH muffler like yours. I can wipe it clean but it soon comes back. I’d assumed it was moisture in the exhaust system finding it’s way to the lowest point.
 
The below suggests yours is seized or not operating, (rust and exhaust not getting hot).

  • Location: On M8 Touring bikes, the flap is in the muffler, sometimes in the left muffler, controlled by a motor near the battery.
  • Function: It opens and closes to change exhaust gas flow, creating quieter (closed/restricted) or louder (open/wide-open) modes, impacting sound and performance.
  • Control: A handlebar button (on some aftermarket systems) or the bike's ECU controls the valve.
Common Issues & Modifications
  • Corrosion: Moisture buildup, especially in the non-primary muffler (left side), can cause rust.
  • Mechanical Failure: The actuator motor or cable can fail, or a screw from the throttle body flap can come loose and damage the engine.
  • Mods for More Sound/Power:
    • Mechanical: Relocating the spring to hold the valve open for full flow.
    • Electronic: Aftermarket tuners can often disable it electronically.
    • Aftermarket Exhausts: Full systems (like Vance & Hines, S&S) often replace the stock muffler, eliminating the flap or integrating a better one (like Dr. Jekill & Mr. Hyde).
What to Do if You Have Issues
  1. Check for Corrosion: Inspect the muffler for rust, especially if it's not getting hot.
  2. Listen for Noises: A fluttering noise might indicate the flap is loose or there's reversion.
  3. Consider Mods: If you want a better sound or performance, explore options like x-pipes or full exhaust replacements, often recommended by builders like DK Custom Products.
For more in-depth help, you might want to know if you're experiencing a specific problem (like noise, rust, or performance issues) or if you're looking for upgrade advice, as this will determine the best solution.
Thanks bold Bob.
My model is a 2019 114" FLHTK.
Will have a look inside the OEM left muffler as I have V&H on it now.
 
You shouldn’t need to look in it, if it had one fitted the actuator and operating cable would be obvious on the side of it.

I honestly don’t know what years these were fitted to, I had one on my 06 Streetbob but replaced the whole system with V&H.

If you search on line there is lots of YouTube videos on how to fix it open or remove it but as Doris says none of them seem to be on 2019 models onwards 🤷‍♂️

I’m really no expert on this to be honest. I’m just repeating what a quick google search will tell you.
 
Sorry for delays in getting back. Computer down and I had forgotten password.
Regarding (if) any actuator on my 2019 Limited to regulate exhaust flow through one or both pipes, I could not see it; as opposed to that which was obvious on my 2010 Ultra Classic on the right side.
On my M8, I have squirted WD40 into the left muffler end and residue does flow through the right muffler so that means there must be no restriction.
 


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