Mac and StreetPilot III.... HELP.....

The Burpster

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Read a few other threads and it would appear that Mapsource (Garmin's support and planning programme as I understand) is not yet available in OS guise btu will be later this year......
a)Can I still use the Pilot III (I'm thinking of getting one as they are cheap now they are discontinued) without Mapsource?

b) is there an alternative Mac compatible programme (like Route 66) that does teh same job as Mapsource?

c) Am I better off waiting until they do the OS version of the software, and getting my GPS then?

Sorry for apparent stooopid questions but I am a GPS virgin, and dont mind loosing my cherry, but object to being Fekked without my consent by a shop that knows more than me!!!

:nenau :nenau
 
Quickly...

a) No.
b) Also no.
c) Don't know. Until Garmin brings out the Mac software, we won't know what features/gps units they'll support under Mac OS X.

Me? I bought a MacBook, and installed XP under Boot Camp. The other alternative is VirtualPC, which works, but is slow.

-Rob
 
Thanks Rob...

Thats saved me spending £400 to save a bit on a GPS unit... I'll wait 'til they bring out teh Mac software and consider then.... I'll stick with maps this year!

Virtual PC is shite I used it years ago on my first iMac, and never got on with it. Its easier to use partners PC for the few applications I cannot get on OS X, but that is seriously slow so now nagging her to get her business to buy her newer one!

Thanks again for quick sensible answers!

:thumb
 
... parallels desktop for intel mac's works really well, no noticable loss of performance. It's not an emulator, but a real virtual machine. Downside is that usb support for garmin devices is not yet working.
 
Burpster:

Here's a quick primer that will (hopefully) let you know exactly what you need to have a computer for, so far as a GPSR is concerned.

1) Loading Maps. If you buy an older GPSR that does not come pre-loaded with maps for all of Europe, then you need to transfer the map segments that cover the area you want to ride into the data chip (or internal memory) of the GPSR. In theory, if you don't plan to venture too far away from home (e.g. no trips to Gibraltar), you could have a friend with a Windows machine do this for you once, and then you would not have to worry about it again.

2) Transferring Waypoints, Routes from the computer to the GPSR. You can create all the routes and waypoints you want on the GPSR - you don't need a computer for that - but, if you want to use the capabilities of MapSource to create routes on the computer and then transfer these routes to your GPSR, well, you need a computer for that.

3) Transferring Tracks from the GPSR to the computer. If you want to archive records of your travels, you can transfer your tracks (breadcrumb trails) from the GPSR to a computer, and store those tracks on the computer.

If I was in your position - a Mac user who does not have a Windows box handy - I would focus on purchasing a slightly newer GPSR that comes with all the maps preloaded (e.g. a 2620, or 27xx series), as that would pretty much eliminate the need to have a computer at all. When Garmin does release MapSource for the Mac, you'll get a bonus that will enable you to perform functions 2 and 3 above.

I don't recommend trying to run MapSource under emulation on a Mac. MapSource is a very complex GIS (Geographic Information System) that has all kinds of handles in it for USB connections, writing files in Windows format on the GPSR, etc., and I think it would be pure hell to get it working 100% troublefreee under emulation.

It's interesting to note that until the release of the 2620 - that being the first automotive GPSR that came with all the maps preloaded - owning and knowing how to use a computer was a prerequisite to purchasing a GPSR. Once Garmin started selling GPSRs that had all the maps preloaded in them - devices that anyone could just take out of the box, flop on the dashboard, and start using - consumer GPSR sales really took off, because all the folks who either did not have a computer or did not have the skills to futz around transferring map segments could now buy and use a GPSR without aggravation.

Michael
 
Thank you Micheal!

Well that is one of the most comprehensive bits of sense I've seen so far on a BBS..... Thank you, I may just print that off and keep it for referance!

I had no idea that GPS was such a large subject but do remember the need for, a PC as essential form my paragliding/hang-gliding days.... I never did venture x-country for that very reason, I didnt have a GPS and VFR seemed much easier!

I can thoroughly understand the "plug and play" mentality that follows any thing technical, as I cannot think of one person that canot tell you a horror story about a machine "crashing"...... hence I use Macs, ride a BM and drive a Jeep! I am very grateful for the explanation and have kinda decided to keep with maps for the rest of this year as I am not doing anu BIG treks. Next year will be a fairly large one tho' and will need it then, so I'll wait and keep an eye on Garmin to see if they are true to their word. I probably wont use all the functionality that using the Mac will give me, but makinng a hard record of where you have been just blows me away! Whatta entry for the scrap book tha'll be!

Thanks again bud! :thumb :beerjug:
 
The Burpster said:
...making a hard record of where you have been just blows me away! Whatta entry for the scrap book tha'll be!

Yeah, I know what you mean. I made kind of a long trip two weeks ago, and figured I'd keep the track log from that one... :D :D :D

Saved Track Logs
 
Well - let's just say I work in aviation. I try to avoid actually flying the planes, but sometimes, I don't duck fast enough, and that little trip the last week of June and first week of July was a good example of that... :D

Anyway, it will keep the regulatory people happy - I've now met my minimum required annual hours number.

Michael
 
I know where you are coming from!

You are in Aviation, like I am in civil service..... There but quietly in the background bimbleing along hoping no-one will notice..... Oh well 89 pay days left 'til I retire!

bob. :beerjug:
 


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