Main stand problem

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The right side of my main stand has come loose (fixing to main frame has broken)

Anyone has this apart? Tips?
 
What is broken exactly? The fixing bolt, centre stand, frame bracket or has the bolt just worked its way loose? :confused:

Any photos of offending parts?

A bit more info would assist educated responses :thumb2
 
Mine did that, just after I sold it to ChasMill of this parish. The bolt had worked loose.

Sold in packs of two, I recall he said.
 
I've got the replacement bits on hold at BWM -

I just wondered if anyone had tips on the fixing process - there are two SOB springs on the stand and thought there may be a 'knack' to getting the thing apart and back together.

edit addition - thanks Wapps - I'll give Chas a call.
 
I fitted a main stand to a Transalp once and that had 2 large springs. With the bike in first gear I used a ratchet tie down strap, one end fixed to a post (anything that won't move will do) and the other end I got some thin strong chord and attached it to the hooked end of the spring. Tighten up the ratchet to pull the spring back then fix it to the stand. With a bit of thought and perhaps another persons help, use this idea to remove the springs, fix the stand then replace the springs.
 
Can't picture it on a 12, but I've done the springs on an 11xx and after much grunting and groaning, nearly pulling the bike over on top of me and much use of good old Anglo Saxon swearwords, discovered that a chunky cable tie can be used as a makeshift handloop to get required pull on said spring, hoiking it over into the place it needs to go* then it can be pulled out (or melted out with a flamethrower type ciggy lighter if necessary :eek:)

*A glamorous assistant with a good hand grip and a pair of decent long nosed pliers may come in handy at this point IIRC
 
Always read and understand a post before replying :blast oops

Just refitted mine after powder coating the stand ('06)

With the bike on the side stand loosen the bolt that attaches the bracket on the main stand that the springs attach to but do not remove it. This will release the tension on the springs enough to allow you to remove them.

From in front of the centre stand I hooked a long peice of string under the front hook of the inner spring and pulled it enough to be able to disengage it from the frame pin. Repeat for the second spring and this time support the stand.

The stand is now hanging free and the attaching bolts can be removed.

Installation is the reverse of the above.

I'm sure the bolts get thread locked and clean and lube the bushes and bolts shanks on fitting.

Hope this helps a bit more than first post.

A willing assistant is very handy when doing this.
 
Simple way to remove tension from a spring:

Collect a few 10p or 20p coins and when the spring is at maximum tension (stand down) insert as many as you can inbetween the coils. Release tension (stand up) and the spring now stays extended and you can easily slip it of.

If you have a spring off the bike put one end in vice and bend 90deg. Fill one side with coins and then bend the other direction 90 deg and do the same. You now have a long spring. Once fitted pull coins out with pliers.

Works just as well with washers.
 
Simple way to remove tension from a spring:

Collect a few 10p or 20p coins and when the spring is at maximum tension (stand down) insert as many as you can inbetween the coils. Release tension (stand up) and the spring now stays extended and you can easily slip it of.

If you have a spring off the bike put one end in vice and bend 90deg. Fill one side with coins and then bend the other direction 90 deg and do the same. You now have a long spring. Once fitted pull coins out with pliers.

Works just as well with washers.

This is the method I used on my old RT. A piece of the proverbial.
 
Why all these replies from people who have no idea

As stated above the springs have a tensioning mechanism.

JUST RELEASE THE TENSIONER AND ALL BECOMES VERY EASY

done mine many times
 
Always read and understand a post before replying :blast oops

Just refitted mine after powder coating the stand ('06)

With the bike on the side stand loosen the bolt that attaches the bracket on the main stand that the springs attach to but do not remove it. This will release the tension on the springs enough to allow you to remove them.

From in front of the centre stand I hooked a long peice of string under the front hook of the inner spring and pulled it enough to be able to disengage it from the frame pin. Repeat for the second spring and this time support the stand.

The stand is now hanging free and the attaching bolts can be removed.

Installation is the reverse of the above.

I'm sure the bolts get thread locked and clean and lube the bushes and bolts shanks on fitting.

Hope this helps a bit more than first post.

A willing assistant is very handy when doing this.

What he said :thumb2

Recently powder coated mine also ... just release the spring tensioner until the plate drops off with the springs. Refitting is the reverse.
If you're still unsure I'd kindly suggest you get a mechanic to do it because you wouldn't want it to drop off later!

Stu.
 
Why all these replies from people who have no idea

As stated above the springs have a tensioning mechanism.

JUST RELEASE THE TENSIONER AND ALL BECOMES VERY EASY

done mine many times

Ok Mr feckin know it all. I know about the mainstand spring tensioner. I was just trying to impart a good general tip about fitting and removing springs.

As seems the case now on this forum you try and be helpful and what happens is that some complete "know it all dickhead" makes a smart arsed comment.

Well I hope that when they need some advice although no one offers it.
 
Can't picture it on a 12, but I've done the springs on an 11xx and after much grunting and groaning, nearly pulling the bike over on top of me and much use of good old Anglo Saxon swearwords, discovered that a chunky cable tie can be used as a makeshift handloop to get required pull on said spring, hoiking it over into the place it needs to go* then it can be pulled out (or melted out with a flamethrower type ciggy lighter if necessary :eek:)

*A glamorous assistant with a good hand grip and a pair of decent long nosed pliers may come in handy at this point IIRC

If in the boondocks with no chunky cable tie a length of emergency paracord will do nicely:thumb
 
Simple way to remove tension from a spring:

Collect a few 10p or 20p coins and when the spring is at maximum tension (stand down) insert as many as you can inbetween the coils. Release tension (stand up) and the spring now stays extended and you can easily slip it of.

If you have a spring off the bike put one end in vice and bend 90deg. Fill one side with coins and then bend the other direction 90 deg and do the same. You now have a long spring. Once fitted pull coins out with pliers.

Works just as well with washers.

thanks for the tip. very clever.:thumb2
 
nice one

Simple way to remove tension from a spring:

Collect a few 10p or 20p coins and when the spring is at maximum tension (stand down) insert as many as you can inbetween the coils. Release tension (stand up) and the spring now stays extended and you can easily slip it of.

If you have a spring off the bike put one end in vice and bend 90deg. Fill one side with coins and then bend the other direction 90 deg and do the same. You now have a long spring. Once fitted pull coins out with pliers.

Works just as well with washers.

nice one mate thats clever :thumb
 


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