MCN’s Skills Course, in association with Rapid Training

Will do. I need to get some replacement kit first as I see they don't allow (Kevlar/Aramid) jeans. So if I can pick up either a second-hand textile two piece or some cheapo RST trousers that will zip to my top I'll be set. Might want to change my boots too they've seen better days.
 
notoriusb.e.n said:
I read the above and think - well I think I kinda just do all that automatically. Might look at what training I can find - I actually fancied doing a race school but maybe road based training is the way forward, horses for (literally) courses I guess.
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Track riding and road riding lines are different in many ways. The obvious one being that there is no oncoming traffic on track. If you want to hone your road riding skills, go to a Rapid Training (highly recommended, although pricey) or similar for the on road course.
 
Looking at doing IAM Roadsmart now, ran into a couple of Blood Bikers at the weekend and got chatting and it sounds like something I might be interested in, prerequisites are experienced rider over 30, less than 3 points (17 years, nearly 40, no points) holding police rider qualification or IAM so I will look into doing that - they did mention about Derbyshire County Council offering some sort of discount on it. Might still do some track stuff anyway, why pigeonhole yourself when you can be a well rounded biker. Insert dad joke about being well rounded.
 
Regardless of whichever "training provider" you choose, the ability to pass the basic motorcycle test is the minimum standard required and advanced training will take things much further (but at your pace of learning).

Achieving a pass at an advanced level of riding will give you the skills and ability far in excess of the basic motorcycle test, and make you a better rider.

You might learn a great deal, you might only learn a little, but you will learn something....and that something could make all the difference!
 
notoriusb.e.n said:
Looking at doing IAM Roadsmart now, ran into a couple of Blood Bikers at the weekend and got chatting and it sounds like something I might be interested in, prerequisites are experienced rider over 30, less than 3 points (17 years, nearly 40, no points) holding police rider qualification or IAM so I will look into doing that - they did mention about Derbyshire County Council offering some sort of discount on it. Might still do some track stuff anyway, why pigeonhole yourself when you can be a well rounded biker. Insert dad joke about being well rounded.
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Derbyshire police do a one day Bikesafe course for a nominal fee. It would be a good starting point and it's a good day out. https://bikesafe.co.uk/derbyshire/
 
Just looked at the prices on the Rapid web site, it looks like they do three courses, each one being two days, so to do all three your looking at a whopping £3 grand :unsure: I've not done the courses, but thought they looked good, however, I just don't think I can justify that kind of outlay for the way which I ride - which resembles an old lady TBF, my days of riding fast are behind me, but I know I could benefit from some tidying up :thumb2
 
When I did my IAM skills for life course years ago it was £139 plus a contribution to my observers petrol every time he took he out on an observed ride. It all started with me plucking up a little courage to find my local IAM group and attend one Sunday morning for a brief free of charge assessed ride.

That £139 was 100% without a doubt the best value for money of any motorcycling items I have ever paid for.

I still apply stuff I’ve learned both consciously and unconsciously on every single ride I take.

I haven’t done ROSPA but I would imagine it being of equal (if not greater) value.
 
Look

Roll

Roll out

Squirt

Keeping it simple for my small brain


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Bimble, bimble. Bimble, bimble. Works for me! All this wanting to go faster, why? At, or near, the speed limit, yes. That doesn't need 120hp and a wide open throttle. Tyre life, mpg, clutch life, suspension stress and longevity - that is what good riding is about. Not being first to the burger van. I asked about Rapid training and asked them if they could improve my list above - got no reply. I suppose I don't meet the criteria of their demographic.

I learned years ago that on a long journey a steady 70mph is MUCH faster, and you can ride for longer, than at 80mph.
 
Rapid like to use the phrase performance motorcycling when describing their training style,I fear you are not their target audience.

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King Rat said:
Bimble, bimble. Bimble, bimble. Works for me! All this wanting to go faster, why? At, or near, the speed limit, yes. That doesn't need 120hp and a wide open throttle. Tyre life, mpg, clutch life, suspension stress and longevity - that is what good riding is about. Not being first to the burger van. I asked about Rapid training and asked them if they could improve my list above - got no reply. I suppose I don't meet the criteria of their demographic.

I learned years ago that on a long journey a steady 70mph is MUCH faster, and you can ride for longer, than at 80mph.
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You may want to have your testosterone level checked. :D
 
I have found bits of this really interesting, especially part 5 on steering, but all of them were worth a read. At 67 years young I find myself still trying to improve my riding. Not necessarily to go faster, but better, safer and smoother.

I found IAM unhelpful, with its emphasis on making progress. My observer was a bit of a dick, too which didn't help.

Rapid Training is a name that puts me off. I don't want to be rapid. Is their "performance riding" the same as "making progress" i.e. riding as fast as you can safely within speed limits? Does nobody think it's possible to be good without being fast?
 
bristolsaint said:
I have found bits of this really interesting, especially part 5 on steering, but all of them were worth a read. At 67 years young I find myself still trying to improve my riding. Not necessarily to go faster, but better, safer and smoother.

I found IAM unhelpful, with its emphasis on making progress. My observer was a bit of a dick, too which didn't help.

Rapid Training is a name that puts me off. I don't want to be rapid. Is their "performance riding" the same as "making progress" i.e. riding as fast as you can safely within speed limits? Does nobody think it's possible to be good without being fast?
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Just finished my Rapid Roadmaster training. It was brilliant, focussed coaching, they do not push you to do anything you don't want too, it is all about being smoother and observation. I am also RoSPA Gold (been RoSPA for 9 years) and also IAM. I found the Rapid coaching the next step up, really enjoyed it. The first question the coach asked me was "what do you want from the course" So you can get whatever you want from it. I'm 66 by the way and no speed freak and at no point in any of the course did I feel out of my comfort zone.
 
casbar said:
Just finished my Rapid Roadmaster training. It was brilliant, focussed coaching, they do not push you to do anything you don't want too, it is all about being smoother and observation. I am also RoSPA Gold (been RoSPA for 9 years) and also IAM. I found the Rapid coaching the next step up, really enjoyed it. The first question the coach asked me was "what do you want from the course" So you can get whatever you want from it. I'm 66 by the way and no speed freak and at no point in any of the course did I feel out of my comfort zone.
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Interesting, thank you. Who was your trainer? How do they communicate during the ride? I'm hearing impaired so struggle with speakers in helmets. I keep looking at their website as I have only heard good things about them.
 
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