MCN will be publishing a testof the new R1200gs tomorrow.

[JohnnyBoxer]

The new bike looks pretty good.

It does not seem that much different from the previous model - however the evolution of the GS over the last 5 years is very significant - the 1150 is now starting to look pretty dated compared to the latest bike - this evolution has given us a big increase in torque, a 25bhp advantage, a saving of 30kg, a far improved gearbox and other technical improvements.

And if you believe Kevin and Julia Sanders of Globebusters the 1200 is now just as reliable as the old 1150 - what's not to like?

What about the 11GS................... is that more dated too

 

[Engineer]

What about the 11GS................... is that more dated too

Don't know about the 1100, but isn't it lighter than 1150, with almost as much power and torque?

 

[dazchallenge]

Yes it feels that there is a 'little' more power in the 'new' GS.
But if i was to ride a dozen 08 GS's i will bet that some will feel quicker than others also

 

[Slowdown]

....

GS 0-60 = 3.3s (naked bike with 8 stone rider dressed in Licra)

Is that with or without a swanky bit of wire with a resistor in it?

 

[tommygun]

Have they changed the indicator switches to one?

 

[London Mole]

That'll be it then.

(naked bike with 8 stone rider dressed in Licra)

[/QUOTE

... that's a cyclist, isn't it?

 

[D6]

And if you believe Kevin and Julia Sanders of Globebusters the 1200 is now just as reliable as the old 1150 - what's not to like?

ill wait and see on that one,,, they,ve said that before, i hope it is, ill need a new un one day

 

[GrinningGSer]

I’ll still take one out for a test though

Someone that we both know is in Spain right now collecting one
and will be back shortlly

 

[Yonkyo]

Is that with or without a swanky bit of wire with a resistor in it?

No.
But I’m sure I could do a 0-60 in 2.3s on my GSA with my special piece of wire fitted....but nobody would believe me

Have they changed the indicator switches to one?

I don’t think so…but I could be wrong.

Someone that we both know is in Spain right now collecting one
and will be back shortlly

Yes, He’s a jammy Jock git.
One of the first to ride the S1000RR, and now the new GS

cheers
Brian

 

[peejay]

Have they changed the indicator switches to one?

Nope

 

[jpooch00]

Apologies if already mentioned, MCN will be publishing a test of the new R1200gs tomorrow in the MCN.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/N...pMailing&WT.mc_id=MCN Newsletter 12jan2010 (1)

They have a couple of photos on the site, plus the following text.

"The first test of BMW’s eagerly-anticipated new twin-cam R1200GS will feature in the January 13 issue of MCN.

The twin-cylinder adventure bike, made famous by the globe-trotting TV exploits of actors Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman and in recent years one of the UK’s most popular machines, has for 2010 received its biggest engine makeover in years.

Although remaining at 1170cc, the classic, air and oil-cooled boxer twin unit gets a new four-valve, twin cam cylinder head design (the old version boasted just a single camshaft per cylinder) as developed on the HP2 Sportster.

The result on paper isn’t that dramatic: a slight boost to both peak power and bottom end grunt, thanks in part also to the equally new exhaust valve, plus a slightly higher rev-ceiling.

But on the road, as our test back-to-back with the old two-valve version found out, the improvement is significant: the 2010 GS is faster, quicker away from the line and more flexible, with the unexpected bonus of there being no change in fuel consumption.

Add all that to the GS’s unchanged and peerless ergonomics and versatility and it looks like the GS is set to stay at the top of the pack – until, at least, Ducati’s new 1200 Multistrada arrives in the Spring."

Lets see if they have anything interesting to say.

So is that just a misprint, or are they really saying they tested the 2010 against a much older model? Haven't these bikes had 4 valve motors for years? Maybe I'm the one that's confused.

I don't pay any attention to what any of the cycle rags have to say anyway, since they're almost always pretty much full of crap and advertiser-biased misinformation.

The forums are what I rely on for accurate and interactive info.

 

[(RIP) Bobble]

Haven't these bikes had 4 valve motors for years? Maybe I'm the one that's confused.

Yes the 2 valve went out when the 11's came in.

 

[jpooch00]

Yes the 2 valve went out when the 11's came in.

That's what I thought too. So that must just be a misprint?

 

[DrFarkoff]

Malaga - 81 bikes to prepare ready for Friday.

I knew I kept that mail somewhere I'll admit now that I couldn't remember what was said

 

[North]

The new bike looks pretty good.

It does not seem that much different from the previous model - however the evolution of the GS over the last 5 years is very significant - the 1150 is now starting to look pretty dated compared to the latest bike - this evolution has given us a big increase in torque, a 25bhp advantage, a saving of 30kg, a far improved gearbox and other technical improvements.

And if you believe Kevin and Julia Sanders of Globebusters the 1200 is now just as reliable as the old 1150 - what's not to like?

You shouldn't say nice things about the 1200, it makes some people upset.

 

[cookie]

So is that just a misprint, or are they really saying they tested the 2010 against a much older model? Haven't these bikes had 4 valve motors for years? Maybe I'm the one that's confused.

the kew words are new and twin cam. they could have added radial too.

 

[jpooch00]

the kew words are new and twin cam. they could have added radial too.

"But on the road, as our test back-to-back with the old two-valve version found out, the improvement is significant:"

This is the line I was talking about.

 

[Yonkyo]

"But on the road, as our test back-to-back with the old two-valve version found out, the improvement is significant:"

This is the line I was talking about.

This review was written by the German Motorrad Mag, then translated to English for MCN. So there was obviously some errors in translation.

The test was an 2008/9 1200GS (4valve) against the 2010 model.

 

[jpooch00]

This review was written by the German Motorrad Mag, then translated to English for MCN. So there was obviously some errors in translation.

The test was an 2008/9 1200GS (4valve) against the 2010 model.

Oh, OK. That makes sense then.

It WOULD make one wonder, though, about the absolute, un-biased accuracy of a review written by Germans about a German product (not that there's anything WRONG with that!).

Hmmmm...

Thanks and ride safe,

John

 

[Engineer]

You shouldn't say nice things about the 1200, it makes some people upset.

Jealousy is not a nice emotion - but I will forgive them.