Michelin anakee nightmare!

[BBB61]

I still think that the original radial tyres made by Michelin in 1989 were the best tyres ever made for motorcycles. The rear lasted 6-8000mls and the front 10'000mls.

I'll have to disagree with you on that one Val. I fitted the original Michelin radials to my GPZ900 and they were rubbish! The front wore out in only 5000 miles and the grip was poor. I complained to Michelin about the poor life and their blamed it on the bike not being set up correctly/worn steering bearings/anything but their product.

I went back to Metzelers (ME33/ME99) and normal service was resumed (10000 miles ffrom the front, 8000 from the rear). I don't know what the Michelin customer service is like nowadays, but back then it was appalling. I wonder if anyone has had cause to contact them regarding a problem with their products?

Bob

 

[Mr K]

I luv Anakees!

Not a twitch, ever.

 

[GSmonkey]

I've had the anakees step out in the wet, normally after giving it too much for the conditions. Never had the same problem on other bikes, but the GS has twice the amount of torque, so I put it down to my learning curve.

 

[Phil W]

Gs monkey sounds about right

I think your probably right about the massive amounts of torque overwelming the tyre. I just didn't think at higher speeds and gear ratio's it would still be dialing in as aggressive.......Taught me a big lesson though........Respect the GS in the wet particularly or she'll bite back!!!

 

[ROJAZ]

I think your probably right about the massive amounts of torque overwelming the tyre. I just didn't think at higher speeds and gear ratio's it would still be dialing in as aggressive.......Taught me a big lesson though........Respect the GS in the wet particularly or she'll bite back!!!

Cmon guys, were goin into bollox territory here. The GS IS torquey, but not THAT torquey it will 'overwhelm' a tyre even in the wet (like Hayabusa would) unless aggravated by some other factor such as diesel or cowshit etc.

Phil, you seem determined to mark this incident off solely as bike / tyre problems and not a slippery spot.

....and for an 'experienced' biker, did you really need teaching a lesson about respecting ANY bike in the wet

 

[Roland Johnson]

Michelin Anakee

Dear Phil,

Had exactly the same experience with these tyres. 70mph,wet road,gentle corner,good road surface,rear wheel stepped-out 3-4 feet.Bike went into bar waving tank-slapper, luckily it sorted itself out and continued. Fortunately, neither the bike nor me hit the tarmac. As soon as possible I changed the tyres to Bridgestone BT020's. Can now breath again and heart rate has dropped.

rgds,

Roland.

 

[Roland Johnson]

Michelin Anakee

Dear All,

Before any of you advise me about diesel/inexperience/excess speed/over or under inflation, misuse of torque etc etc, none of the above applies ( I am an "old git" and have been riding every kind of bike/tyre combo, for 30 years etc).

These tyres are lethal in the wet on tarmac ( they may well be super on the dirt etc, but they are c***p in the wet on normal roads). Full stop. If you value your own hide and the £9200 you paid for your new GS - dump these tyres - fast !

rgds,

Roland.

 

[Chris Terry]

Re: Michelin Anakee

Dear Phil,

Had exactly the same experience with these tyres. 70mph,wet road,gentle corner,good road surface,rear wheel stepped-out 3-4 feet.Bike went into bar waving tank-slapper, luckily it sorted itself out and continued. Fortunately, neither the bike nor me hit the tarmac. As soon as possible I changed the tyres to Bridgestone BT020's. Can now breath again and heart rate has dropped.

rgds,

Roland.

Sound like you have the chain oiler set to high !

 

[Dave Price]

Re: Michelin Anakee

Dear All,

Before any of you advise me about diesel/inexperience/excess speed/over or under inflation, misuse of torque etc etc, none of the above applies ( I am an "old git" and have been riding every kind of bike/tyre combo, for 30 years etc).

These tyres are lethal in the wet on tarmac ( they may well be super on the dirt etc, but they are c***p in the wet on normal roads). Full stop. If you value your own hide and the £9200 you paid for your new GS - dump these tyres - fast !

rgds,

Roland.

This thread gets more and more daft.

 

[Roland Johnson]

Assuming you even ride a bike, think of my email when you are next sliding under the oncoming truck.

 

[Deleted account 220427002]

Re: Michelin Anakee

Dear All,

Before any of you advise me about diesel/inexperience/excess speed/over or under inflation, misuse of torque etc etc, none of the above applies ( I am an "old git" and have been riding every kind of bike/tyre combo, for 30 years etc).

These tyres are lethal in the wet on tarmac ( they may well be super on the dirt etc, but they are c***p in the wet on normal roads). Full stop. If you value your own hide and the £9200 you paid for your new GS - dump these tyres - fast !

rgds,

Roland.

as some old git from some sci-fi program once said " You can't break the laws of physics Jim"

if the tyres are so bad why did it only happen once and not on every corner after that.... i've never had movement unless i pushed them too hard.
It's hard to believe it's just the tyres and not something to do with the road too.

 

[peterh]

Coming from a Mille with 207RRs, and before that a VFR800 which most often had 020's fitted, here's my 2p worth.

The Anakees seem very well suited to the 1200. It has a useful amount of torque, but it is delivered in a very linear and non-threatening way - at least as far as my on road wet and dry experience goes. Can't speak for off road. The bike is *not* a tyre shredder as some other bikes can be.

All tyres will let go in the wrong circumstances. All tyres underperform compared to their norm if not correctly inflated or are well worn.

 

[pragmatix]

Well I have thought long and hard about this, and my only soloution is to start individual posts about, Anakees, 607's,Tourances, TKC 80'S, 020's and trailwings as all of these have "let go" at least once so are shite tyres, and as an experianced rider who does 30K+ miles per year, it is definately not my fault, its the tyres

Pete A (tyres are bad just ride on the rims)

 

[Deleted Member MM]

Well I have thought long and hard about this, and my only soloution is to start individual posts about, Anakees, 607's,Tourances, TKC 80'S, 020's and trailwings as all of these have "let go" at least once so are shite tyres, and as an experianced rider who does 30K+ miles per year, it is definately not my fault, its the tyres
Pete A (tyres are bad just ride on the rims)

Maybe you should... as you say all tyres will let go.. but importantly some will continue to grip when/where other's won't.

Share your experience with us

 

[DavidHolmes]

Well I have thought long and hard about this, and my only soloution is to start individual posts about, Anakees, 607's,Tourances, TKC 80'S, 020's and trailwings as all of these have "let go" at least once so are shite tyres,...

Thank goodness I am on Enduro 4s

 

[pragmatix]

Thank goodness I am on Enduro 4s

There shite an all just missed em of the list

Pete A

 

[Graham T]

Michelin Anakee

I really rate these tyres in dry, rain and snow. I get loads of feedback in the wet and havent spun up the rear - hard cornering in the wet tests the front though - but the feedback is good.

My O/E tyres were Michelin T66's, fine in the dry but several "moments" in the wet.

 

[brucew]

Anake

While on the subject of Anakee’s does any one know what the tread depth is on new ones. I am about to head of on a 5 thousand kilometre tour around New South Wales and Queensland and am wondering if I have enough tread on the tyres. By the way there is 3.5mm on the front and 5mm on the rear.

 

[Karn-Evil]

It just happened to me

You can't blame individual tyres for incidents like that. It's down to a poor road surface and or rider inexperience/error.

I read this post when it was initially published and thought about the same as others i.e must have been rider error.But this has just happened to me.Good road surface with some overbanding slight drizzle slight left hand bend steady throttle,about 55MPH and WOW out of no where suddenly the rear end steps right out,enough to knock on the stops.I immieadiatly thought that my wheel bearing had failed again but it had not.Must be a punchure..No tyre sound .Oil or somthing,i went back to look nothing no debris oil stones gravel NOWT I rode the section again similar line similar speed every thing was fine.So what was it?certainly not rider error,i know the road too well.and not inexpierience ive had bikes step out on me before in wetter conditions than that and under power.This is my second Anakee on the rear i got 4200 miles out of the first and it stuck very well,it held the road better than my Azzaros on my FZR600R,dry or wet,and this second one is most definatley different.For a start ive got 4800 miles out of it and its only 75% worn,and its recently done 2500 miles round the Alps where it was wet on occasions and some of the roads were covered in over banding and the tyre did not let go.I've had tyres step off white lines and overbanding before ,many times,its not woth comment but this was VIOLENT almost mechanical.To the guy who origonally posted dont take offence from the others who replied it aint happened to them its happened to me i know i believe you.

 

[Paul Wakefield]

Had a similar experience with Tourance when the 1200 was fairly new. Let go without warning and so unexpectedly I went back to look at the road surface which was absolutely fine. Never had a moment in over 30k miles on the 1150 and never had another moment in the next 10k miles on the 1200 but it didn't half dent my confidence for a while.

Paul