MITAS E-07+

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New tyre time. I've done a searcha nd can only come up with info on the non + version.

So has anyone used the E07+. WOuld be interested in your thoughts, particularly wet grip on roads.

Thanks
 
I can highly recommend them. Good on wet and dry also surprisingly good on muddy green lanes.
From my point of view they are much better on the tarmac then comparable Anakee Wild. I mean not that noisy and vibration is much less. However you can see thread is not that high as blocks on A.W.

Hope that help

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I can highly recommend them. Good on wet and dry also surprisingly good on muddy green lanes.
From my point of view they are much better on the tarmac then comparable Anakee Wild. I mean not that noisy and vibration is much less. However you can see thread is not that high as blocks on A.W.

Hope that help

Thank you, that is helpful.
Have you also used the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR? If so how do they compare to these?
Thanks again,
 
Have you also used the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR? ,

I haven't tried them but just looking at them it's clear of their purpose.
The treadblocks are low profile to give better road performance also flat lateral sections work well for soft surfaces and mud. I wouldn't want to tackle more than a gravel road on the STR. The Rally front seems a good all round design for the front but like the Karoo 3, I expect they'd tend to kick sideways on and large rocks much more than a block pattern like a TKC80 or AW.

I can highly recommend them. Good on wet and dry also surprisingly good on muddy green lanes.

Interesting, have you tried the AW's on loose stone and rock?
I find the AW's to be a good "all-round" any surface tyre.
 
I haven't tried them but just looking at them it's clear of their purpose.
The treadblocks are low profile to give better road performance also flat lateral sections work well for soft surfaces and mud. I wouldn't want to tackle more than a gravel road on the STR. The Rally front seems a good all round design for the front but like the Karoo 3, I expect they'd tend to kick sideways on and large rocks much more than a block pattern like a TKC80 or AW.



Interesting, have you tried the AW's on loose stone and rock?
I find the AW's to be a good "all-round" any surface tyre.

Yes I’ve tried them in Brecon Beacon two years back and they’re good. However after a couple of thousand miles I had half thread gone. Perhaps good grip, though.
 
However after a couple of thousand miles I had half thread gone. Perhaps good grip, though.

That seems about right to me, I've managed over 5K on the rear AW, I reckon at a push I could get 6k down to the warning bar but I'll be changing them this weekend after about 5,300 miles.....they do take a bit of looking after on the tarmac, but then that's true of any "knobbly" tyre.
 
That seems about right to me, I've managed over 5K on the rear AW, I reckon at a push I could get 6k down to the warning bar but I'll be changing them this weekend after about 5,300 miles.....they do take a bit of looking after on the tarmac, but then that's true of any "knobbly" tyre.

Exactly, if you’re expecting good grip tyres compound have to be softer so it’s wear quickly.
 
Thanks for all the info. As far as the E-07+ goes how much of a compromise on road are they?

I know they are not going to be as good as the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR (or non STR Version). But are they much worse? Or much better than the AW or K3?

Sorry for so many questions.
 
This is my advice for all offroad compromise ADV tyres. It depends on how you ride on the road. If you like to hoon around and be hard on the throttle then you'll find they let go especially when banked over.....did anyone say traction control!
If however you accept you on a chunky tyre that will squirm and go through points in the tyres rotation where there is no/very little rubber in contact with the road and you adjust your riding accordingly then there is no trade off, though they tend to be noisier but not horrendously. Ear plugs usually downed it out.

Conversely what YOU will put up with as reasonable may be different to what someone else thinks.

Just try them....whats the worst that will happen, you have them for 5000 miles then change them.

Having spent considerable hours researching tyres for the LC....I've gone for an AW again on the rear.

I really wish BMW had retained the standard rim sizes of the hex and oil heads it would have given an improved selection.
I'm hoping Mitas release the E09 in a 170x17 and 120x19.......
 
I agree with all you said blueranger.

The only experience I have of off road tyres is 2000 miles on TKC80 on a Husky 701. And the Karoo3 for 2 days at the Off Road Skills in Wales.
Im possibly overthinking this, I want to start to do a few of the gentle lanes. So my thoughts are as Ive little experience do I go for a tyre that would be more than good enough for a gentle lane, but may compromise too much and frustrate me on road, or do I go with the more road based tyre and possibly get me stuck off road. (Forum version of thinking aloud)

I think the AW will probably too off road for what I want.
As for the E-09 Ive no idea, but I have found out the E-10 is coming soon in the LS sizes.
 
do I go for a tyre that would be more than good enough for a gentle lane, but may compromise too much and frustrate me on road, or do I go with the more road based tyre and possibly get me stuck off road.

If that's all you require, then I think that the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR may be worth a look. There are video's of this tyre being used on a race-track on a GS, and if you get stuck off road with these, then you have taken on far too much than just a gentle lane as these will cope with far far more than that. I have them, and dont find them any compromise on the road at all - indeed I reckon they are much better than the A3's on the road that I had on before. Off road they cope with as much as I want to do having done the ORS course in Wales.

I know this is a E 07+ thread, so if you are not interested in the STR then then please feel free to ignore as there's already a long STR thread on here!

Here is more reading off site again than you can cope with in one sitting on various comparisons!

http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/pirelli-scorpion-rally-str.1241493/
 
I think the AW will probably too off road for what I want.

Here is something I've learned the hardway with offroading a big bike like the boxer GS you can never have a too offroad orientated tyre especially if your a novice riding lanes you dont know.
Lanes have a habit of getting much harder really quick and you can find yourself committed where you can't go back your only option is forward it getting worse before it gets better.

Having something like an AW will ensure you have a good level of grip to deal with most things that you'll come across, there is nothing worse that finding yourself in deep shit and not having the grip to get out it.

An aggressive tyre will give you the confidence and help you relax which is so important, everyone says you shouldn't ride alone offroad which is correct but people do anyway so its doubly important in my view, that you have a very grippy tyre, you stuffed if your alone and you've no traction. I'm not saying the AW is any better or worse than the E07...I wondered whether to get one but don't overthink it. Get your confidence and ability then look at different tyre options once you understand better what your buying and what the lanes are like that you'll ride.

Besides the fun you can have offroad from the better tyres by far outweighs the loss of balls out riding on tarmac.

I was out on Sunday in Yorkshire and the pace was "brisk" but not balls out and I had no worries about the tyres, I find them fine in the wet, so I don't see them as a compromise day to day on road because I don't try and ride the GS like you would a more road focused bike that's only fun to ride fast.

I still class myself as a relatively inexperienced offroad rider so I depend on the tyres for grip because I dont have the skills to get away with a more road orientated tyre and the GS is one heavy bike to lift alone so the less you drop it the better.

Whether you buy the E07 or AW just make a choice and try it....Next time I'm out I''ll give you a shout if you like but up to the may bank holiday is out due to other commitments apart from some short rides.
 
Thanks for taking the time blueranger, thats one of my trains of thought.

I thought I had made a decision to go with the Rally STR, now Ive got 3 on my mind again :/
 
This might help.

This is macclesfield old road.

The STR would cope fine before this section and it would be fine after it.

But on the way down I think you need either the AW or possibly the E07 to get down it safely and certainly back up the E07 may be okay but I did that on my GSA with the AW's with no problems both ways.

https://flic.kr/p/23eCTZm

Salter fell is a similar case, the difficult bit is in the middle your fine if you bail out before you start the ascent/decent you can go back but if you commit then you need to see it through.
 


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